[PCB_FORUM] Re: Remote Allegro file viewing

  • From: "Austin Franklin" <allegrolist@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:26:40 -0500

Hi Jean,

Yep, sounds like a viable solution.

I'd prefer to see Allegro enhanced with better security though...I think a
product of this caliber should do better in this regard.

Regards,

Austin
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jean Bratton
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  We ust GoToMeeting. You can let the other part only view the Allegro
session, not  your whole desktop. The viewer does not have a save option, so
I believe this should be safe.



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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin
  Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:51 AM
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  Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Remote Allegro file viewing



  Hi Gary,



  If they have control of the screen/mouse etc. couldn't they save the
design file off somewhere?   Reviewing a complex PCB is many hours...and I
doubt someone is going to sit there and watch someone do that for hours...



  If the control is application specific, and not control of the desktop,
and the program (Allegro Viewer?) doesn't have a save capability (does it?
I don't remember), that could work.



  Regards,



  Austin

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary
    Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:39 AM
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    Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Remote Allegro file viewing

    Peter,



    This sounds like your best solution. We've used NetMeeting in this
regard. You fire up the board, then allow the other person to have control
of the mouse.

    He can check out anything in the design he wants, and you can see
exactly what he's doing. He doesn't have the database, you do.



    Good luck,

    Gary





    Gary E. MacIndoe
    PCB Design Engineer
    Fort Collins, Colorado

    amd.com

    gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx


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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Wages
    Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:36 AM
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    Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Remote Allegro file viewing



    You could always use one of those "Go to my PC" type viewers. This
allows you someone at a remote location to view your PC screen and move your
mouse. This would allow them to query items, measure, and view constraints,
without providing them the actual database. Caveat being you have to be
online with them while they review the layout.

    Good luck.




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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin
    Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:15 PM
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    Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Remote Allegro file viewing



    Hi Peter,



    But...if he can access the file (as he would have to do if viewing it
remotely) then he can copy it.  Right?



    I think your only choice is really printouts or PDF of each layer etc.
Or, OBD...why not just output an ODB++ file for him to review?



    Regards,



    Austin



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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Peter Pietrangelo
      Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:14 AM
      To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Remote Allegro file viewing

      He can then use the database and build it somewhere else. I am trying
to protect IP. They have Allegro. Hard to explain on here, but I need to
keep the data in our hands.




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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Meier
      Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:40 AM
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      Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Remote Allegro file viewing



      Peter,



      So if your customer is only going to be using the viewer? send him the
.brd file. He can't change anything with the viewer anyway, it's only a copy
you still have master data? I don't see the problem or need for remote
access?



      Regards,

      Gerry





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      Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Remote Allegro file viewing





      I need to be able to have a customer look at a BRD file without having
possession of the file itself. As at least some of you know the password
protection in Allegro is useless. My customer wants more than PDF files and
I need to protect the data. I want the customer to be able to remotely
access the file and be able to at least use the commands of the free viewer.
Does anyone already have a solution or any suggestions?



      Thanks,



      Peter


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