[PCB_FORUM] Re: ICU2004 - PCB Top 5 Issue's

  • From: "Gerry Meier" <gerry.meier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:02:07 -0400

I am sorry but this is a bug in the voiding routine and not a valid example
of a DRC exception.
 
 
Zero_DRC's,
Gerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Jabbaz [mailto:patrick@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:35 AM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ICU2004 - PCB Top 5 Issue's


Better yet have the Tool meet the physical DCR settings, 
Regarding the new Dynamic shapes, I have had several times DRC show up
around VIA Voids, when I query the DRC, it is usually something like
DRC space 4.999 and the DRC value is 5.000
Then I must select the Dynamic shape and increase the DRC clearance by
adding an oversize value of .1
I believe the tool should comply with the DCR settings by Default, instead
of having the Designer Tweak each DRC violation the Tool generates.
The items you mentioned below are welcome by Designers and are good examples
For DRC exemptions.
 
Inkra Networks
Patrick Jabbaz CID
Sr Board Layout Eng.
40971 Encyclopedia Circle 
Fremont, CA 94538
Work (510) 249-4835
Mobile (408) 621-6533
patrick@xxxxxxxxx
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Hickey [mailto:ehickey@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:51 AM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ICU2004 - PCB Top 5 Issue's
 
There will be a method to suppress certain DRCs in 15.2 by applying
properties to the objects.
 
DRC Suppression in 15.2 (June 28, 2004)
 
3 new properties are available to suppress typical 'false' type DRCs. In
15.0, the property NODRC_SYM_SAME_PIN was introduced that suppresses pin to
pin spacing errors within the same component. Use of some of these
properties may alleviate the requirement for constraint areas or time spent
reviewing each instance of error.
 
*         NODRC_COMPONENT_BOARD_OVERLAP -  apply directly to component
placebound shape when components overlap the package keepin area. Typically
these components tend to be mechanically constrained like connectors,
switches and LEDs.
*         NODRC_ETCH_OUTSIDE_KEEPIN - apply directly to etch elements
outside the route keepin area.
*         NODRC_VIAS_OUTSIDE_KEEPIN - apply directly to vias placed outside
the route keepin area. These vias tend to be GND stitching vias in large
quantities. The use of temp groups is recommended when suppressing a large
quantity of vias.
-----Original Message-----
From: Musetti, Carl [mailto:cmusetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:00 AM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ICU2004 - PCB Top 5 Issue's
I completely agree with you Jerry Allegro DRC system is one of the strongest
features of the tool and to have it made so that errors are acceptable is
unacceptable!
-----Original Message-----
From: Schwartz, Jerome [mailto:jschwa01@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ICU2004 - PCB Top 5 Issue's
For all of you that have been doing real design work for 25 years or more
please, please, please, do not let something like this
pass through to Cadence. An error is an error. There is no such thing as a
false DRC. The system is trying to tell
you that something is wrong. Understand the error, make it your friend, then
correct it. It will go away, no hard feelings.
I have never sent a design to be fabricated with DRC's. There's always a way
to correct the error. I've seen most of it, if not all.
No DRC at required areas:
 
    False DRC errors should have some way of making the tool not report them
as errors. 
 
 
 
Regards,
 
Radha Krishnan G.
Layout Design Engineer
Caliber InfoTech India P Ltd.
35/1, 10th Street, Gandhipuram,
Coimbatore-641012
Tamil Nadu
India
 
Phone:+91-422-5371411 
 
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From: local [mailto:suresh@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 7:51 PM
To: felix@xxxxxxxxxxxx; grk
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From: sureshbabu <mailto:suresh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 7:47 PM
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] ICU2004 - PCB Top 5 Issue's
 

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