[ian-reeds-games] Re: some newbie questions....
- From: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
- To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:51:53 -0500
Hadi,
Sorry, I had some in laws over and we went out to eat, but the first thing I
want to say is that everyone in the world was once a newbie, till they learned.
They learned from others who were newbies at one time or another, so don't
worry about asking questions. This list is exactly here for just taht reason,
to share maps, to talk shop about TB and on making great fun maps that will
hopefully make TB the powerhouse we all know it can become, grin.
You are correct in that the transfer of a reload like point will leave the
heavy machine gun structure loaded and armed for bear.
Since the machine gun doesn't move, and you don't want the unit fireing it to
move, try this.
In the point folder, go to your kinetic point file.
Int he flag line add the at_zero= flag.
For this you are going to need an effect name. In this example I will call it
solid.
In the solid effect, you put in the duration= flag and a no_movement flag.
What will happen ist aht the gunner will have a kinetic point in his flags, so
when he uses the pull trigger,t he kinetic point is spent down to zero, cause
it was only one point.
This casts the effect on him of solid, which has him not able to move for
however long you want, but it sounds like that character might want to move
eventually...it is up to you how long.
The gun will have the no_movement effect on it too, but it sounds like it isn't
going to be moving anyway.
Did that make sense?
That should hopefully work. Ironically the point_current= flag was to work
around a bug, but I find myself using that all the time, so it is one of thsoe
little flags that was just one of those great stumbles of inspiration Ian had.
Let me know if that works.
I actually like this idea you cooked up, so I am really interested if that pans
out. It would work as a great way to simulate artillery teams, forced to stand
at their cannons, catapults, giant spitball shooters, lol.
I recall you mentioned changing the name of the lead player unit. Were you
thinking flashy names, street names, nicknames? Names are surprisingly
important. A name can evoke a feeling about a unit just by the number of
vowels in it, lol.
I like to look at baby name sites, to look for interesting names for
characters. It is really helpful when I need ethinic groups like chinese, or
russian.
al
"The truth will set you free"
Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
----- Original Message -----
From: hadi
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 5:06 PM
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: some newbie questions....
hello allen
thanks for helping out
this method sounds very good, it didn't come to my mind :)
anyway, there is a small problem with this method though. imagine like this,
the guy can reload the machinegun, then he can walk away, and then the player
could fire the machinegun without the guy operating it. so he can just come and
reload, then run away and let the structure to just fire. it won't be
non-risky and the tactical point about it would be destroied.
however, maybe the guy who reloads the gun should get an effect, like
(operating_gun) which will stop him from moving for a duration, or something...
maybe the machinegun should have an effect, which would let it to fire
within a duration, so it would stop the player from reserving the fire for
some other time when there is noone around the gun.
what's your idea about this?
i'm sorry bout asking these stuff. i'm afraid my (first) map is going to be
a little complex one in my point of view (but boring to others? maybe?), but we
should see.
it may take a week or two, or less depending on my lazyness, but again i'm
not sure that should i keep on making it on the original version or the dev
versions.
sorry if i sound very dum... it always happens when it goes toward
programming and stuff~
i have a list and that list has 26 features in it which i should achieve on
this system.....
i will probably contact you allen off-list for other issues.
ian, thanks for your quick and cool replies. i will probably share my map
and sounds and such, but i was just wondering about the file lockdown thing. it
sounds cool when your work goes upto public and such... :d
also, the machinegun idea will probably a player-use feature, unless later on
you see the map and could figure out something for ai as well.
after all, thanks for reading mails and replying to them.
till now i haven't seen any of my questions/suggestions/w/e being missed by
you!
i hope that my map becomes a good one, adding a great value to your awesome
game, making it to sound cooler as it is.
hail!
-regards
hadi
On 12/23/2012 1:04 AM, Allan Thompson wrote:
Ok Hadi, This is something that is a little complex.
First, I have to say that I am not sure if the enemy AI can handle
something this complex, that is to say, if you are making this for the bad
guys, it might not work as advirtised.
If it is for the player, then this might do the job.
I would set up an ammo point, unless you want the gun to be able to fire
indefinitely.
The machine gun I would make into a structure.
it should have these flags in it.
kinetic_max=1 kinetic_current=0.
That says that the heavy machine gun has the potential for kinetic points,
but does not start with any. That job is given to the unit or units that will
be using the gun.
The machine gun should have a skill like "Fire".
Anyway, on the units you want to have access to this thing, you want to
give them a skill called "pull trigger" or something similar.
The pull trigger skill would have a flag that restores that kinetic point.
it would look like this: kinetic_restore=1.
The skill should also cost an action point, or points as you see fit.
The machine gun will recive that kinetic point thrut he pull trigger
skill, and when it has it, it then can be used as any other unit to attack, or
in this case fire.
When the Fire skill does work, make sure it spends that one kinetic point,
so that it has to be used over again by the unit handling the weapon.
Otherwise it will just be able to attack all the time, unless you add some ammo
point too.
So, I hope that helps, and I hope I explained it right. All you are doing
is transfering a point in order to "activate" the machine gun structure, so
that it appears like the unit is useing the heavy machine gun.
As long as you don't allow stacking, it should be impassable. If it is a
problem, you can always make a special terrain that has the impassable flag for
it to stand on, so that it will block the area it is on forever, unless someone
has a flying flag or skill.
If it didn't make sense, or if you need help, don't hesitate to ask. You
can write me off list, since people are concerned over the list traffic.
al
"The truth will set you free"
Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
----- Original Message -----
From: hadi
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 2:02 PM
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] some newbie questions....
hello.
this is me again, ... just brainstorming on my map and its systems
after coming from uni.
during these days i sprayed the mailinglist with mails.... sorry anyway
maybe we should find an irc chat or something :d
anyway, can someone clearify what is health_inflict_mod and
health_restore_mod? i can't understand what are those for.
i have another question as well. i want to make an unmoveable object
which would need another unit beside it to deal damage.
can you help me how can i do that?
i'm trying to make a heavy machinegun but i need to figure it out how
can i make that first.
thanks :)
also any ideas what should i name our gangleader? at first i put it
robert but i think i should change it to something else
thanks :)
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