[huskerlug] Re: More MS stuff
- From: Steve Goddard <goddard@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: huskerlug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 09:52:58 -0500
Cesar,
> So do you think the Administration has the paper that has the contraact
> with MS on it?
I would think so. I talked with Tom Hansen <thansen1@xxxxxxx> when I
negotiated my "deal" and he seemed to have a copy of the agreement that
he checked to verify my argument. Tom is the Manager of Computer
Acquisitions in IS, so I would think that he has a copy. Moreover, he
probably helped negotiate/approve it at some level.
Tom is a very nice guy and is trying to do his job the best he can.
That is, he is trying to protect UNL from law suits and help students at
the same time. We may disagree with the solution, but we should
separate that from the people trying to do their job when we discuss the
issue. Many department computers have MS software installed without
licenses for the software. This is illegal and makes the University
liable.
My position is that if you choose to use software that requires a fee
and comes with a license agreement, then you should pay the fee.
However, if you do not use the software or have already paid for the
license, then you should not be *forced* to pay twice for the same
software!
Steve
goddard@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Cesar Delgado wrote:
>
> Dr. Goddard,
>
> So do you think the Administration has the paper that has the contraact
> with MS on it? We would need that along with the new proposal that ASUN
> is going over.
>
> -Cesar Delgado
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: huskerlug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:huskerlug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Goddard
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:26 AM
> > To: huskerlug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [huskerlug] Re: More MS stuff
> >
> >
> >
> > I do not recall the beginning of this thread, but I will add
> > this anyway for those not familiar with UNL's policy.
> >
> > Since 12/31/01, UNL has been participating in this "program."
> > Every PC I buy for my research program is taxed at a rate of
> > $130, even though I already have licenses that cover all of
> > the software! I have negotiated a "deal" with the
> > Administration to only pay $50 per computer for the Office
> > Suite, on machines that I dual boot Linux and MS. The CSE
> > department has a license for MS Office, but only a limited
> > number of seats and I figured it was only fair to pay for the
> > software I do install.
> >
> > However, by default, I still get charged $130 for machines
> > that only run Linux. The cost center from which the PO was
> > issued is automatically billed. For these, I write a letter
> > to get the money returned.
> >
> > I big hassle!
> >
> > Steve
> > goddard@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> > Dr. Steve Goddard Assistant Professor
> > Room #215-A, Ferguson Hall Dept. of Computer Science and Eng.
> > Phone: (402) 472-9968 University of Nebraska-Lincoln
> > Fax: (402) 472-7767 Lincoln NE 68588-0115
> > Email: goddard@xxxxxxxxxxx WWW:
> > http://www.cse.unl.edu/~goddard/
> >
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> > Cesar Delgado wrote:
> > >
> > > For those of you that read ./ you probably already know,
> > but all those
> > > who don;t, there is an
> > >
> > article(http://slashdot.org/articles/02/05/07/156236.shtml?tid
> > =109) on
> > > how MS is trying to make schools pay for licenses on computers that
> > > aren't even running MS products. The articles talk about
> > > "institution-wide commitment" where they just count all
> > computers and
> > > the school has to buy a license for each one even if they
> > don;t run MS
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > Just a new tid-bit related to thread that we've been on.
> > >
> > > -Cesar Delgado
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> > >
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