[openbeos] Re: Support for Ancient Computers?
- From: Daniel Wünsch <tombhadAC@xxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:59:20 +0200
Why should the support be limited to i686/x64?
Regards,
Daniel
Am Montag, den 16.07.2007, 08:36 -0500 schrieb Brian Verre:
> While I sympathize with people wanting to use older machines to mess around
> (I have a few myself ATM), as a general question, wouldn't it make more sense
> to cut ties with this older hardware while Haiku is a fledgling system?
>
> Target i686/x64 for R1, etc? A quite affordable 'modern' system can run QEMU
> at P/200 speeds, or just use virtualization. I built a new AMD64 system for a
> friend for around $200 (complete) a few months ago. Used case, 40gb drive and
> DVD/CDR drive sure, but the HD can be had for $10 used, and the disc drive
> $20 new if I didn't have a couple.
>
> Maybe I'm off base here, but it is an honest question about moving on. Use
> those old PCs as appliances of some sort instead?
>
> Regards
> -Brian
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: openbeos-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Gerald Zajac
> Sent: Sat 7/14/2007 3:16 PM
> To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [openbeos] Re: Support for Ancient Computers?
>
>
>
> Urias McCullough wrote:
> > On 7/14/07, Gerald Zajac <zajacg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Urias McCullough wrote:
> >> > On 7/14/07, Gerald Zajac <zajacg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> Recently I attempted to run Haiku on two old computers that are
> >> about 10
> >> >> years old with 200 and 233 MHz MMX Pentium processors, respectively.
> >> >> The boot process would not start; that is, the Haiku boot screen did
> >> >> not appear, and nothing was written to the syslog via the serial
> >> port.
> >> >> BeOS booted and ran okay on both of these computers.
> >> >
> >> > You're experiencing bootloader issues
> >> The bootloader is failing on only these two computers, and works fine on
> >> the other newer computers where I have used that hard disk. That is,
> >> Haiku boots fine from that hard disk in other newer computers. I'm
> >> using Haiku R41492. Could it be some BIOS peculiarity or the north
> >> and/or south bridge chipsets in these computers? Both computers use the
> >> Intel chips SB82437VX and SB82371SB.
> >
> > Right - in order to get my P75 laptop to boot, I used a notebook drive
> > conversion cable to hook it up to my PII 350 machine running BeOS R5 -
> > and then formatted the disk as BFS and installed Haiku to it... that
> > disk was 500mb
> >
> > In other situations, however, I have not had much luck taking a 4gb HD
> > that I formatted and installed Haiku on using the same PII 350
> > machine, and trying to boot that disk on a P200. I am thinking
> > possibly that the PII 350 sees the disk with different geometry (LBA?)
> > than the P200 does and this may be the reason that the P200 is not
> > able to boot the disk once formatted/installed with the PII 350. I
> > have not tried with smaller disks yet, but I suspect that may end up
> > "solving" my problem.
> Both of these computers have LBA ability since they have 2 and 3 GB hard
> drives and the BIOS screen states that they are LBA; however, the drive
> I was trying to boot Haiku from is a 20 GB drive which has 4
> partitions. It has one partition each for BeOS and Zeta, and two
> partitions that I use for Haiku (i.e., two separate rev's of Haiku).
> The 20 GB drive is normally in a computer that I use for testing the
> video drivers that I'm working on. Monday I will try installing Haiku
> on an older, smaller hard drive (1 GB) where it will be the only
> partition on the drive, and see if that works any better.
>
> Regards,
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
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