[openbeos] Re: Support for Ancient Computers?
- From: Stephan Assmus <superstippi@xxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:39:09 +0200
Hi Ryan and Nicholas,
> Yep. I also think Haiku should strive to run as efficiently as BeOS in
> general and on older systems.
This sentence gets to the point. Unfortunately, Haiku is not BeOS yet in
terms of efficiency. But that's at least what most of us care about very
much, and we want to get there eventually.
Unfortunately, current systems run so fast, that it is hard to know how
inefficient ones code actually is. But I still have my trusty old 2xPII350
around (in storage at the moment, but functional yet). One of these days, I
will re-animate it when we are down to optimizing Haiku. :-)
> I can recall people complaining how the pervasive multi-threading of BeOS
> made it hard to develop for (which is true, multi-thread programming is
> harder) but it just seems like Be, Inc. was just 10 years too early.
> Haiku is now in a position to be the premiere OS for the latest
> multi-core CPUs, since the whole system, from the OS down to
> applications, is designed to use multiple threads.
Wholeheartly agreed!
Multi-threaded programming is hard depending on what you want to do and if
you have prior experience with the particular problems you are trying to
tackle. I am happy that programming on BeOS has tought me a lot of these
things over the time.
May I chime into your Windows Vista bashing?
[The rest of this mail is just letting off some steam about Windows Vista.
If you have better things to do, please just close this email now and save
yourself some time... :-)]
I just bought Windows Vista, in the hopes of being able to cut some HDV
videos. What a miserable experience to install Windows Vista!! In terms of
looks and what it asks you to do, it is of course an improvement over
previous Windows versions. But it simply didn't work for me. It would not
install on my harddrive(s). "No suitable System Volume found for current
installation requirements". You know, I am no moron when it comes to
partitions and harddrives. In the end, it only worked after wiping the
entire harddrive, then it would install. Hm, maybe that was the point, do I
see a sneak, Microsoft? Ha! But I tricked you, I had another harddrive! I
kept my BeOS, Haiku and Ubuntu installations, inspite of your nasty tricks!
And what a pain that installation is. You are forced to wait at least 3
minutes staring at an empty screen and a mouse cursor (which you can move,
if you are bored) - WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENING! No harddrive
activity, no CD-ROM activity, nothing. At first, I thought pressing
Ctrl-Alt-Del brings up the next screen, but I just happened to press it
after the timeout... After having gone through the procedure over and over
for the whole afternoon (nice, I can now remember my Product Key!) trying
to fiddle with the partitioning, I learned that it just wants me to wait
three minutes between screens.
But in the end, I managed to overpower it. Nice to look at first, but once
you visited different places in the OS, I have to say the inconsistency of
the UI is overwelming. That is MUCH worse than any Linux distro used to be!
Ubuntu is _really_ tidy in comparisson. Like they didn't have enough
programmers to change all of their included software to the new interface
standard?! And by the way, I don't find Windows Vista exactly easy to use.
BeOS is miles ahead and Ubuntu actually too in the meantime.
Well the experience has taught me, that Haiku has absolutely every right to
be here, and that it will be great to have that OS around. And it also
taught me that I should keep looking into writing MediaKit support for MPEG
AVC movies...
Wow, that was a long rant... but I had to let out... :-)
Best regards,
-Stephan
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