Hi once more: > > Since the clipping info is specified in screen coordinates, I would > > find it very odd if a BMenuBar (which is just a view) would mess > > the > > clipping up, but who knows. > It's faulty. Maybe I'd better recheck if it's screen coordinates > then: > could be relative to left-top as well. But it's faulty. Rechecked: So the clipping info is indeed in screen coords. But it's faulty none the less. I use the clipping_bounds currently to help me find the offset. And, yes: that rect is faulty too. (that is, it's corresponding to the clipping list would that be OK, and so has the same offset fault) BTW: I don't expect anyone to take my word on this. My posting was only meant to 'make it known that there might be a fault' so you can check it for yourself when 'it's up'. Nothing more, nothing less :-) As soon as I have 3D acc running I'll release the sourcecode: anyone willing can try to tweak it themselves then, and see what's wrong. :) BTW2: I mentioned I tested on Dano, right? I did not yet check R5. I'll do that when I find the time and let the results know here. OK, signing off: I want to see if I can get acc up asap. :-) Bye! Thanks for listening :) Rudolf.