[gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
- From: "Eugene R. Iwanski Jr." <kb7uen@xxxxxxx>
- To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 21:35:22 -0700
I don't know if the decision maker was blind or not.
Gene and Princess
PDAs I have owned: Casio Digital Diary SF4000, Sharp organizer, Sharp
Wizard EL530, Type N' Speak, Palm 3C, Viewsonic V35, Dell Axim X5, and
Pariot.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Meredith" <tallin32@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 8:10 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> The one that made the executive decision to leave cardinal directions out
> of
> the product?
> Was he blind, or do we even know?
>
> -C-
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Eugene R. Iwanski Jr.
> > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:43 PM
> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> >
> >
> > Actually, he was blind and felt cardinal directions should be
> > included. Gene and Princess
> >
> > PDAs I have owned: Casio Digital Diary SF4000, Sharp
> > organizer, Sharp
> > Wizard EL530, Type N' Speak, Palm 3C, Viewsonic V35, Dell
> > Axim X5, and
> > Pariot.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Meredith" <tallin32@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:38 PM
> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> >
> >
> > > I don't suppose that the person making that call could have
> > been blind
> > > = and potentially superimposing his own difficulties
> > parsing cardinal
> > > = directions
> > > onto a target market of which he considered himself a part?
> > I think =
> > > they
> > > have a blind exec or two there at VisuAide.
> > >
> > > Still wonder why you occasionally get that feedback when you're =
> > > browsing.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if BrailleNote GPS 3.0 will give you the realtime
> > > intersection detection when you approach an intersection as well as
> > > have that be a repeat announcement option? One thing I do
> > like about
> > > the = Trekker is that it does at least that much automagically and,
> > > whilst it is quite handy with the BrailleNote GPS to know
> > how far one
> > > is from the next intersection as you approach, particularly in
> > > suburban areas where the blocks are ... What ... Eight, ten miles
> > > apart, this becomes a slight problem when one is waiting
> > for the bus
> > > and one's location doesn't = really
> > > change all that much.
> > >
> > > -C-
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of=20 Eugene
> > > >R. Iwanski Jr.
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:31 PM
> > > > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > I don't remember the name of the person I talked to at=20
> > Visuaide.
> > > >He felt=20 the same way I did but was not in a position to do
> > > >anything=20 about it. I=20
> > > > don't like the thought of spending a lot of money and having=20
> > > > a sighted=20
> > > > person decide for me what information I can handle and not=20
> > > > handle. This is=20
> > > > part of the reason why I like the BN GPS so much and wish=20
> > > > Sendero would=20
> > > > develop for the Pacmate. Their system just seems to be very=20
> > > > well thought=20
> > > > out all the way around. As a visually impaired person it=20
> > > > makes more sense=20
> > > > to me than the Trekker does.
> > > > Gene and Princess
> > > >=20
> > > > PDAs I have owned: Casio Digital Diary SF4000, Sharp=20
> > > > organizer, Sharp=20
> > > > Wizard EL530, Type N' Speak, Palm 3C, Viewsonic V35, Dell=20
> > > > Axim X5, and=20
> > > > Pariot.
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > > > From: "Chris Meredith" <tallin32@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:10 PM
> > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > > Gene,
> > > > >
> > > > > Who was the entity you spoke to on this? When I'd last=20
> > > > spoke with =3D=20
> > > > > Michel regarding this, there were mutterings about cardinal=20
> > > > direction=20
> > > > > =3D information
> > > > > being in another release. Furthermore, occasionally whilst=20
> > > > browsing =3D
> > > > > you'll
> > > > > hear things like: "On West Burnside Street heading west",=20
> > > > or something =3D
> > > > > along
> > > > > those lines. Just wondering, as obviously both of these=20
> > > > things can't be
> > > > > right, and in a case like that, I like to get a third=20
> > > > opinion to break =3D
> > > > > the
> > > > > tie.
> > > > >
> > > > > -C-
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > > > > > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf=20
> > > > Of=3D20 Eugene=20
> > > > > >R. Iwanski Jr.
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 6:37 PM
> > > > > > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > It also won't give you anything beyond left or right. What
> > > > > >I=3D20 =
> > > =20
> > > > > >mean by that=3D20 is it won't tell you cardinal
> > directions such
> > > > > >a=20 North, South,=3D20 East, and=3D20 West. You
> > also have to
> > > > > >switch from pedestrian mode to free=3D20 mode to get the=3D20
> > > > > > distance to a POI. I have given up on the Trekker and=3D20
> > > > > > learned that Visuaide=3D20
> > > > > > decided against cardinal directions because they felt it=3D20
> > > > > > would be comfusing=3D20
> > > > > > to blind users. Needless to say I am very
> > disappointed in=3D20
> > > > > > the Trekker and=3D20
> > > > > > still hope Mike May will port his GPS system over to the=3D20
> > > > > > Pacmate in the=3D20
> > > > > > future.
> > > > > > Gene and Princess
> > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > PDAs I have owned: Casio Digital Diary SF4000, Sharp=3D20
> > > > > > organizer, Sharp=3D20
> > > > > > Wizard EL530, Type N' Speak, Palm 3C, Viewsonic V35, Dell=3D20
> > > > > > Axim X5, and=3D20
> > > > > > Pariot.
> > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> > > > > > From: "Gerry Leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 2:30 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wish that the trekker would tell us both the
> > mileage and=20
> > > > > > > altitude.
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <meearls@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:20 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, it really depends on what is going on=20
> > > > weatherwise and=3D20=20
> > > > > > > > satellite
> > > > > > > wise.
> > > > > > > > Last week, one day, for example no it was the week=3D20
> > > > > > before, I was in=3D20
> > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > area
> > > > > > > > which I walk every day and I had no signal for about
> > > > > > > > 600=3D20
> > > > > > feet. Now,=3D20
> > > > > > > > the next day and every day since, when I have traveled
> > > > > > > > in=3D20
> > > > > > that same=3D20
> > > > > > > > area I have had no problems with the signal at all. I
> > > > > > > > have=20 never=3D20 used the trekker in a car and
> > plan to do
> > > > > > > > so =
> > > sometime=20
> > > > > > > > next
> > > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > just to see how it operates.
> > > > > > > > Now there is a place where I have to go in an=20
> > > > enclosure to get=20
> > > > > > > > to=3D20 the
> > > > > > > street
> > > > > > > > corner. I have no problems loosing the signal
> > with the=3D20
> > > > > > delorme but I
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > imagine with the trekker I may loose the signal. I
> > > > > > > > dono.=3D20
> > > > > > I think if it
> > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > raining this afternoon I'll take the trekker down
> > there=3D20
> > > > > > to see what
> > > > > > > happens.
> > > > > > > > I also want to cross over into a park area in the middle
> > > > > > > > of=20 our=3D20 town's business district to
> > witness what the
> > > > > > > > =
> > > trekker=3D20
> > > > > > does. A bit of=3D20
> > > > > > > > a round-about answer, perhaps but I have not had as much
> > > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > > with the trekker because I like to know the
> > distance I=3D20
> > > > > > have walked=3D20
> > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > trekker does not give me.
> > > > > > > > Mary /ellen Earls
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Gerry Leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 5:50 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Are there places where one will get a signal
> > and the=3D20
> > > > > > other won't?
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <meearls@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 9:17 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I am not quite awake so I don't know what you mean
> > > > > > > > > > by=3D20 =
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > sensativity.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Earls
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Gerry Leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 4:10 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > do you find many differences between the two
> > > > > > > > > > > systems=20 with=3D20 regard to sensitivity?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <meearls@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Maps:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lisa what a marvelous O and M.
> > instructor! I need to
> > > > > > > > > > > > get an O and M. instructor out here=3D20
> > > > > > because there=3D20
> > > > > > > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > street
> > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > walk down which is horse shoe in shape and
> > I know=3D20
> > > > > > how to walk=3D20
> > > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > the traffic coming toward me on the right and
> > > > > > > > > > > there=3D20
> > > > > > is a curb=3D20
> > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > if I ever wanted to go the other way on that street
> > > > > > > > > > > I=20 can't=3D20 figure
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > to do it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Our village is so fabulous. It was one of the=3D20
> > > > > > nation's first
> > > > > > > planned
> > > > > > > > > > towns
> > > > > > > > > > > and is patterned after a village in England with =
> > > all=3D20=20
> > > > > > > > > > > architecture
> > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > > tudor style.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway like so many of the small English=3D20
> > > > > > villages, the lanes
> > > > > > > > > > > > wind
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > out of eachother and you may start on one lane
> > > > > > > > > > > and=3D20
> > > > > > think you=3D20
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > walking
> > > > > > > > > > > straight and find yourself on another lane.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This is why I have both the Trekker and
> > the Bn=3D20
> > > > > > Gps so I can=3D20
> > > > > > > > > > > > take
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > trekker and virtually walk these streets as if=20
> > > > we were=3D20=20
> > > > > > > > > > > actually on
> > > > > > > > them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > It is nice because because of the makeup
> > of these=20
> > > > > > > > > > > > streets=3D20 the only
> > > > > > > > > > traffic
> > > > > > > > > > > for the most part is the folks who live on the=3D20
> > > > > > streets so it=3D20
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > odd to see grownups, kids and dogs walking down
> > > > > > > > > > > the=3D20
> > > > > > middle of=3D20
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > streets
> > > > > > > > > > > with no car within a country mile.And we have=3D20
> > > > > > walked through=3D20
> > > > > > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > soccer
> > > > > > > > > > > and kick ball game and have watched many a game of
> > > > > > > > > > > Kick=20 the=3D20 Kan.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have even come across one little dog who loves
> > > > > > > > > > > > to=20 sleep=3D20 right at
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > curb and Peggy and I have spoiled quite a
> > few of=3D20
> > > > > > his siestas.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of ye ol pooch, park time!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Earls
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