I don't remember the name of the person I talked to at Visuaide. He felt the same way I did but was not in a position to do anything about it. I don't like the thought of spending a lot of money and having a sighted person decide for me what information I can handle and not handle. This is part of the reason why I like the BN GPS so much and wish Sendero would develop for the Pacmate. Their system just seems to be very well thought out all the way around. As a visually impaired person it makes more sense to me than the Trekker does. Gene and Princess PDAs I have owned: Casio Digital Diary SF4000, Sharp organizer, Sharp Wizard EL530, Type N' Speak, Palm 3C, Viewsonic V35, Dell Axim X5, and Pariot. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Meredith" <tallin32@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:10 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps: > Gene, > > Who was the entity you spoke to on this? When I'd last spoke with = > Michel > regarding this, there were mutterings about cardinal direction = > information > being in another release. Furthermore, occasionally whilst browsing = > you'll > hear things like: "On West Burnside Street heading west", or something = > along > those lines. Just wondering, as obviously both of these things can't be > right, and in a case like that, I like to get a third opinion to break = > the > tie. > > -C- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=20 > > Eugene R. Iwanski Jr. > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 6:37 PM > > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps: > >=20 > >=20 > > It also won't give you anything beyond left or right. What I=20 > > mean by that=20 > > is it won't tell you cardinal directions such a North, South,=20 > > East, and=20 > > West. You also have to switch from pedestrian mode to free=20 > > mode to get the=20 > > distance to a POI. I have given up on the Trekker and=20 > > learned that Visuaide=20 > > decided against cardinal directions because they felt it=20 > > would be comfusing=20 > > to blind users. Needless to say I am very disappointed in=20 > > the Trekker and=20 > > still hope Mike May will port his GPS system over to the=20 > > Pacmate in the=20 > > future. > > Gene and Princess > >=20 > > PDAs I have owned: Casio Digital Diary SF4000, Sharp=20 > > organizer, Sharp=20 > > Wizard EL530, Type N' Speak, Palm 3C, Viewsonic V35, Dell=20 > > Axim X5, and=20 > > Pariot. > >=20 > >=20 > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > From: "Gerry Leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 2:30 PM > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps: > >=20 > >=20 > > > Hello, > > > > > > I wish that the trekker would tell us both the mileage and altitude. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <meearls@xxxxxxx> > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:20 PM > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps: > > > > > > > > > > Well, it really depends on what is going on weatherwise and=20 > > > > satellite > > > wise. > > > > Last week, one day, for example no it was the week=20 > > before, I was in=20 > > > > an > > > area > > > > which I walk every day and I had no signal for about 600=20 > > feet. Now,=20 > > > > the next day and every day since, when I have traveled in=20 > > that same=20 > > > > area I have had no problems with the signal at all. I have never=20 > > > > used the trekker in a car and plan to do so sometime next > > > week > > > > just to see how it operates. > > > > Now there is a place where I have to go in an enclosure to get to=20 > > > > the > > > street > > > > corner. I have no problems loosing the signal with the=20 > > delorme but I > > > > would > > > > imagine with the trekker I may loose the signal. I dono.=20 > > I think if it > > > isn't > > > > raining this afternoon I'll take the trekker down there=20 > > to see what > > > happens. > > > > I also want to cross over into a park area in the middle of our=20 > > > > town's business district to witness what the trekker=20 > > does. A bit of=20 > > > > a round-about answer, perhaps but I have not had as much > > > experience > > > > with the trekker because I like to know the distance I=20 > > have walked=20 > > > > which > > > the > > > > trekker does not give me. > > > > Mary /ellen Earls > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Gerry Leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 5:50 AM > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there places where one will get a signal and the=20 > > other won't? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <meearls@xxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 9:17 AM > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not quite awake so I don't know what you mean by=20 > > > > > > sensativity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Earls > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Gerry Leary" <lgerry3@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 4:10 AM > > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Maps: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you find many differences between the two systems with=20 > > > > > > > regard > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > sensitivity? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <meearls@xxxxxxx> > > > > > > > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:59 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Maps: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lisa what a marvelous O and M. instructor! > > > > > > > > I need to get an O and M. instructor out here=20 > > because there=20 > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > street > > > > > > we > > > > > > > walk down which is horse shoe in shape and I know=20 > > how to walk=20 > > > > > > > one > > > way > > > > > with > > > > > > > the traffic coming toward me on the right and there=20 > > is a curb=20 > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > my > > > > left > > > > > > but > > > > > > > if I ever wanted to go the other way on that street I can't=20 > > > > > > > figure > > > out > > > > > how > > > > > > > to do it. > > > > > > > > Our village is so fabulous. It was one of the=20 > > nation's first > > > planned > > > > > > towns > > > > > > > and is patterned after a village in England with all=20 > > > > > > > architecture > > > > being > > > > > > > tudor style. > > > > > > > > Anyway like so many of the small English=20 > > villages, the lanes > > > > > > > > wind > > > in > > > > > and > > > > > > > out of eachother and you may start on one lane and=20 > > think you=20 > > > > > > > are > > > > walking > > > > > > > straight and find yourself on another lane. > > > > > > > > This is why I have both the Trekker and the Bn=20 > > Gps so I can=20 > > > > > > > > take > > > the > > > > > > > trekker and virtually walk these streets as if we were=20 > > > > > > > actually on > > > > them. > > > > > > > > It is nice because because of the makeup of these streets=20 > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > traffic > > > > > > > for the most part is the folks who live on the=20 > > streets so it=20 > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > not > > > at > > > > > all > > > > > > > odd to see grownups, kids and dogs walking down the=20 > > middle of=20 > > > > > > > the > > > > > streets > > > > > > > with no car within a country mile.And we have=20 > > walked through=20 > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > a > > > > > soccer > > > > > > > and kick ball game and have watched many a game of Kick the=20 > > > > > > > Kan. > > > > > > > > I have even come across one little dog who loves to sleep=20 > > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > at > > > > the > > > > > > > curb and Peggy and I have spoiled quite a few of=20 > > his siestas. > > > > > > > > Speaking of ye ol pooch, park time! > > > > > > > > Mary Ellen Earls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > >=20 > > >