[goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud

  • From: "Dancing Dots" <billlist1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:13:05 -0400

OK, Douk, I think I understand better now what you are trying to do.  In
Lime 9.02, Lime's MIDI import function is essentially the same as it ever
was as far as I know.  
 
What I was trying to say is that if you want to enter a 64TH note in Lime's
Note Entry Mode you can now press the grave key to select that rhythm.
SHIFT+GRAVE sets up for a 128TH note.
 
Please send me a copy of that MIDI file off-list.  Send to my HYPERLINK
"mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx address.

 

Regards,
Bill

Bill McCann
Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
www.DancingDots.com
Tel: [001] 610-783-6692 

 

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From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Duke
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 7:42 PM
To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


No I am using XP home. Were you able to get hold of the file from Albert,
else I can send it to you. Do you know why Lime does not give an option of
selecting 64th note value whole importing a midi file?
Douk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:billlist1@xxxxxxxxxxx"Dancing Dots 
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud

OK, Douk, please keep us posted on further testing.  Are you using Windows
Vista?
 

Regards,
Bill



 

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From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Duke
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:35 PM
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


Hi Bill:
I downloaded the package, and tried the procedure again. the same problem
persists. When importing the midi file, and where it asks about specifying
the shortest note, it does not have the 64th note value. If I specify a 16th
note value with a quarter metronome beat, The first note of the piece will
show as quarter note while it should be an eighth, and thus affecting the
measuring. If I select the 32nd note value with 8th metronome beat,
everything goes well except when it comes to the last couple bars where the
32nd and 64th note values are introduced. I didn't try entering 64th notes
using the grave key yet. It's getting too late here and I am tired, so I'll
retire to bed for right now.
thank you for any further suggestions.
Douk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:billlist1@xxxxxxxxxxx"Dancing Dots 
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 5:02 PM
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud

OK, Douk, try the grave key for 64TH and SHIFT+Grave for 128TH values.  I
believe you have a beta version of Lime 9 that supports that keystroke.  If
that does not work for you, you will need to install GOODFEEL 3.1 which
ships with Lime 9.  See HYPERLINK
"http://www.dancingdots.com/gf/31dl.htm"www.dancingdots.com/gf/31dl.htm and
follow link to "Package Installer".  If you are authorized for GF 3.0 you
should need no further authorization.  Anyone who is authorized to run
GOODFEEL 3.0 has my permission to download this update if they wish.
 
Once you're happy with GOODFEEL 3.1 and Lime 9, it is very important that
you delete any shortcuts on your desktop or Start menu that point to
GOODFEEL 3.0 or Lime 8.  Or you can simply uninstall GOODFEEL 3 and Lime 9.
SharpEye version is the same.  
 
Once a Lime file is saved in the Lime 9 format, it cannot be read again in
Lime 8 or any earlier versions of Lime.
 
GOODFEEL 3.1 is a no-cost update for those who are authorized to run
GOODFEEL 3.0.  It runs under Windows XP and Vista.  The Lime Aloud scripts
that come with it will work with JAWS 6.x through 9.x.  See Start | Programs
| Lime | Language Manager to change Lime's language to English, German or
Spanish.
 
We will soon make an "official" announcement about it but try it if you
like.  Note to other members: if you are happy with GOODFEEL 3.0 and Lime 8,
there is no urgent need to update.
 
Regards,
Bill

Bill McCann
Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
www.DancingDots.com
Tel: [001] 610-783-6692 
 


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From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Duke
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:12 AM
To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


Hi Bill:
I did indeed do all that, and imported the file successfully, however, as I
stated in my original message, I couldn't find the 64th note value in lime.
All it gives me is 32nd with an eighth beat for the metronome. I did send
the file to albert so you guys can take a look at it. I sent him the
original file that I wanted transposed to a minor from g minor (that is 2
half steps up). I also want it in lime format so I can print it for my
sighted students in order to avoid conflicting scores. The last couple
mesures contain 32nd and 64th notes.
Thanks
Douk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:billlist1@xxxxxxxxxxx"Dancing Dots 
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:55 PM
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud

For rhythmically complex MIDI files, I think Lime might do a better job of
importing rather than opening the file directly in GOODFEEL.  As I recall,
shortest note value in GOODFEEL's MIDI Part Control equals 7 which maxes you
out at 32ND note values.  Yes, send file here and we can play with it.  
 
Lime's MIDI import is a bit tedious as you must create a new file with at
least enough empty measures to hold music from your MIDI file.  It must have
one part for each MIDI track.  So if your MIDI file has 4 tracks, your empty
Lime file must have 4 parts.  Use Voice | Parts and Voices to add parts
(ALT+V, V).  If there are any time signature changes, you must create them
in the empty Lime file before importing MIDI into Lime.  The MusicXML import
feature of Lime is much smarter.  To import a MIDI file, you must import it
one track at a time.
 
Regards,
Bill

Bill McCann
Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
www.DancingDots.com
Tel: [001] 610-783-6692 
 

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From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Duke
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:03 AM
To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


Hi Albert:
I have tried your suggestion, but GoodFeel tells me to try to select shorter
notes in my midi sequencer. So no luck there. I originally wanted to do it
in limeSo I can do some editing as necessary. Do you have any suggestions in
lime?
Douk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:albertm13@xxxxxxxx"albertm13@xxxxxxxx 
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


Hi,

First, you probably need to tell GOODFEEL to stop right after loading a MIDI
file.  You can do this by checking 'Always prompt after loading a MIDI file'
in the Options | Automation Options dialog.  Then when you load a MIDI file
GOODFEEL will display the GOODFEEL MIDI Processing dialog which will give
you access to the (MIDI) Part Control dialog (Alt+C) and in there you'll
need to change Shortest Note to 7 (for 64th notes) for the parts that need
it. I highly recommend only changing it for the parts that need it.
Pressing F1 in this dialog will explain this dialog more fully and there's a
link in there about how to navigate and modify fields in there.

Thanks,
Albert

 


-- "Duke" <douk.fattah@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Ok guys. I am stomped here. I have a midi file here that I downloaded from
the internet. The last few bars contain some 32nd and 64 note values. How
can I get lime to recognize that? when I import it into lime, the smallest
value it allows me to select is a 32nd note at an eighth beat. I appreciate
your help. I have the piece ready for anyone who wants to take a stab at it.
thanks.
Douk


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