[goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud

  • From: "Duke" <douk.fattah@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 00:34:48 -0000

Hi Bill:
I downloaded the package, and tried the procedure again. the same problem 
persists. When importing the midi file, and where it asks about specifying the 
shortest note, it does not have the 64th note value. If I specify a 16th note 
value with a quarter metronome beat, The first note of the piece will show as 
quarter note while it should be an eighth, and thus affecting the measuring. If 
I select the 32nd note value with 8th metronome beat, everything goes well 
except when it comes to the last couple bars where the 32nd and 64th note 
values are introduced. I didn't try entering 64th notes using the grave key 
yet. It's getting too late here and I am tired, so I'll retire to bed for right 
now.
thank you for any further suggestions.
Douk
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dancing Dots 
  To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 5:02 PM
  Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


  OK, Douk, try the grave key for 64TH and SHIFT+Grave for 128TH values.  I 
believe you have a beta version of Lime 9 that supports that keystroke.  If 
that does not work for you, you will need to install GOODFEEL 3.1 which ships 
with Lime 9.  See www.dancingdots.com/gf/31dl.htm and follow link to "Package 
Installer".  If you are authorized for GF 3.0 you should need no further 
authorization.  Anyone who is authorized to run GOODFEEL 3.0 has my permission 
to download this update if they wish.

  Once you're happy with GOODFEEL 3.1 and Lime 9, it is very important that you 
delete any shortcuts on your desktop or Start menu that point to GOODFEEL 3.0 
or Lime 8.  Or you can simply uninstall GOODFEEL 3 and Lime 9.  SharpEye 
version is the same.  

  Once a Lime file is saved in the Lime 9 format, it cannot be read again in 
Lime 8 or any earlier versions of Lime.

  GOODFEEL 3.1 is a no-cost update for those who are authorized to run GOODFEEL 
3.0.  It runs under Windows XP and Vista.  The Lime Aloud scripts that come 
with it will work with JAWS 6.x through 9.x.  See Start | Programs | Lime | 
Language Manager to change Lime's language to English, German or Spanish.

  We will soon make an "official" announcement about it but try it if you like. 
 Note to other members: if you are happy with GOODFEEL 3.0 and Lime 8, there is 
no urgent need to update.

  Regards,
  Bill

  Bill McCann
  Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
  www.DancingDots.com
  Tel: [001] 610-783-6692 




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  From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Duke
  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:12 AM
  To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


  Hi Bill:
  I did indeed do all that, and imported the file successfully, however, as I 
stated in my original message, I couldn't find the 64th note value in lime. All 
it gives me is 32nd with an eighth beat for the metronome. I did send the file 
to albert so you guys can take a look at it. I sent him the original file that 
I wanted transposed to a minor from g minor (that is 2 half steps up). I also 
want it in lime format so I can print it for my sighted students in order to 
avoid conflicting scores. The last couple mesures contain 32nd and 64th notes.
  Thanks
  Douk
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dancing Dots 
    To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:55 PM
    Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


    For rhythmically complex MIDI files, I think Lime might do a better job of 
importing rather than opening the file directly in GOODFEEL.  As I recall, 
shortest note value in GOODFEEL's MIDI Part Control equals 7 which maxes you 
out at 32ND note values.  Yes, send file here and we can play with it.  

    Lime's MIDI import is a bit tedious as you must create a new file with at 
least enough empty measures to hold music from your MIDI file.  It must have 
one part for each MIDI track.  So if your MIDI file has 4 tracks, your empty 
Lime file must have 4 parts.  Use Voice | Parts and Voices to add parts (ALT+V, 
V).  If there are any time signature changes, you must create them in the empty 
Lime file before importing MIDI into Lime.  The MusicXML import feature of Lime 
is much smarter.  To import a MIDI file, you must import it one track at a time.

    Regards,
    Bill

    Bill McCann
    Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
    www.DancingDots.com
    Tel: [001] 610-783-6692 




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    From: goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:goodfeel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Duke
    Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:03 AM
    To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


    Hi Albert:
    I have tried your suggestion, but GoodFeel tells me to try to select 
shorter notes in my midi sequencer. So no luck there. I originally wanted to do 
it in limeSo I can do some editing as necessary. Do you have any suggestions in 
lime?
    Douk
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: albertm13@xxxxxxxx 
      To: goodfeel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:52 PM
      Subject: [goodfeel] Re: Handling 64th note values in lime aloud


      Hi,

      First, you probably need to tell GOODFEEL to stop right after loading a 
MIDI file.  You can do this by checking 'Always prompt after loading a MIDI 
file' in the Options | Automation Options dialog.  Then when you load a MIDI 
file GOODFEEL will display the GOODFEEL MIDI Processing dialog which will give 
you access to the (MIDI) Part Control dialog (Alt+C) and in there you'll need 
to change Shortest Note to 7 (for 64th notes) for the parts that need it. I 
highly recommend only changing it for the parts that need it.  Pressing F1 in 
this dialog will explain this dialog more fully and there's a link in there 
about how to navigate and modify fields in there.

      Thanks,
      Albert




      -- "Duke" <douk.fattah@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


      Ok guys. I am stomped here. I have a midi file here that I downloaded 
from the internet. The last few bars contain some 32nd and 64 note values. How 
can I get lime to recognize that? when I import it into lime, the smallest 
value it allows me to select is a 32nd note at an eighth beat. I appreciate 
your help. I have the piece ready for anyone who wants to take a stab at it.
      thanks.
      Douk


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