On Tuesday 13 January 2004 02.48, Tim Hockin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 09:53:26AM -0700, Mike Berry wrote: > > GMPI hosts shall provide translation facilities for connections > > between plugin controls which share a primary type but differ on > > secondary characteristics (such as ramping support). > > I'm no longer conveinced we even need this requirment at all. If > we mandate that hosts allow ramped outputs to send to a non-ramped > input, we force every host to insert ramp->point converters. > Better, I think (I know I flip-flopped on this a bit), is to assume > all real-number inputs are capable of some semblance of ramps. If > your input LEGITIMATELY is not capable of ramps, you may want to > consider a non-float type, or just handling ramps as points. If > you *should* be ramping but aren't, your plugin will just sound > worse than it could. > > What think? Yeah, that's fine with me. > As for the case of very long ramps, I've had a read of the AU docs. [...] > It may not be perfect, but it's interesting. Yes... It's interesting, but I don't quite like it, for various reasons. Most importantry, there are no less than 5 possible cases; 1) no ramp, 2) full buffer ramp, 3) starts within buffer, 4) ends within buffer, and 5) starts and ends within buffer. And what about multiple ramps per buffer? Unless I'm missing something, XAP/Audiality style ramp events are *so* much easier to deal with. It it's simplest form; linear audio rate ramping, assuming <target, duration> events are used; In the event decoding switch: case EV_RAMP: if(ev->duration) delta = (value - ev->target) / ev->duration; else { value = ev->target; delta = 0; } break; In the DSP loop: <use value for something> ... value += delta; Besides, the AU way doesn't even provide any additional information or capabilities, AFAICT; it might even have some more restrictions. //David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate .- Audiality -----------------------------------------------. | Free/Open Source audio engine for games and multimedia. | | MIDI, modular synthesis, real time effects, scripting,... | `-----------------------------------> http://audiality.org -' --- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se --- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Generalized Music Plugin Interface (GMPI) public discussion list Participation in this list is contingent upon your abiding by the following rules: Please stay on topic. You are responsible for your own words. Please respect your fellow subscribers. Please do not redistribute anyone else's words without their permission. Archive: //www.freelists.org/archives/gmpi Email gmpi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx w/ subject "unsubscribe" to unsubscribe