[gha] Re: (peace from harmony) Re: Some Thoughts of First Two Chapters + + Our discussion is prolonged until May 31
- From: Takis Ioannides <takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 22:27:13 +0300
Dear Leo and co-peace makers of GHA sisters and brothers in soul,
please find below my approach to the deep questions, as follow, with a
crtical addition,
How to involve the governments and leaders in the new peace thinking with
peace classification of the population?
That’s a very good question.
If we accept that in every rule there are exceptions, I believe that
nowadays the governments of the nations do not want peace, and this is
evidenced by their practices. Some nations attack to other nations, they
conquered them with weapons, or money buying politicians or exercise
tyranny.
If we take the seeds of a plant in granite, the plant will not flourish. In
my opinion politicians are like granite, so the seeds of peace can not be
flourished in stone souls. The belief that education will make people able
to adopt peace, is a fallacy. Politicians are very educated, like whoever
scientists who have the knowledge and manufacture weapons, nuclear,
biological weapons, mutated, etc. they all don’t care about peace, at all.
The implementation of grabbing the money , the raw materials , the soils of
a country , as it happens currently in my country Greece , brought hunger
and poverty , desperation and fear in humans. How these people can be
considered free citizens , to think freely , to be interested in the
concept and practice of peace under such adverse conditions? Look at
yesterday's results of elections in Europe. How then can be convinced us
that the Europe of unemployment and hunger is no peace . who manages
Europe. The governments.
So, the governments have no will to educate the population properly about
peace, but the opposite.
The year 775 b.C. king of the ancient city of Elis Ifitos sent a messenger
to the oracle of Delphi to ask the oracle Pythia, what will bring harmony
and peace in the Greek cities societies. Τhe oracle of Delphi proposed to
revive the Olympic Competitions, and to crown the winners with a branch of
wild olive. this award was called kotinos. “Kotinos” occurres from the
Greek world “kotos” which is the highest level of a mix of malice plus
rancor, odium and bad blood in the soul of humans.
*At the same time, as it is common in the Greek language,
it has also an opposite meaning. “Noble* *Rivalry” , which is the offer of
sport to triptych body, spirit, society. Rivalry means striving for
excellence, competition for supremacy. The adjective 'noble' identifies the
guileless, without self-interest nature of this effort. The rivalry,
therefore, requires collective activity in which they can compete.* *The
outcome of every human activity depends on the historically subdued level.
This grows from the ever increasing efforts of people working on it during
its history. They occupy increasingly higher performance by competing them.
The highest performance, in turn, becomes the measure for this activity. By
exceeding each time the measure is evolving.*
During the competition the runner for example was trying to win the not
the other runners but himself. That was the real meaning of Olympic
Competitions.* In other words the competitor tries to win his ego, and not
his adversary.*
So Ifitos, the legislator Lycurgus of Sparta and Kleisthenis of Pisa made
the vast antiwar triumph of antiquity. They concluded a treaty term, the
Sacred Truce, which was respected by the Greeks all around and applied as
an inviolable rule of international law, even in the dramatic conflicts of
the ancient world. With this Sacred Truce the area of Olympia and Elis
declared as sacrosanct denied crossing troops from there lands and set the
Sacred Month of the Olympic Games, during which they stop all hostilities.
That’s why I insist for the SOUL CULTUR , and I sent my article for the GPS
based on this. This I think may reach also the second good question, the
psychology of peace.
Of course we can not compare the governers like Iphitus, Cleisthenes and
Lycurgus, with the current politicians and rulers. But if we can educate
directly the people, especially children in schools and in families with
the idea of Peace, then I believe that we will achieve our target, not via
the current rulers and politicians I repeat.
The knowledge nowadays is spread out via internet, reaching citizens and
children. But If we manage to enter the GPS book in the universities, it
will be a great achievement.
with haronious wishes and Love
Takis Ioannides
2014-05-26 21:59 GMT+03:00 Takis Ioannides <takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Drar Leo and co0peace makers of GHA sisters and brothers in soul,
>
> please find below my approach to the deep questions, as follow,
>
> *How to involve the governments and leaders in the new peace thinking with
> peace classification of the population? *
>
>
> That’s a very good question.
>
>
> If we accept that in every rule there are exceptions, I believe that
> nowadays the governments of the nations do not want peace, and this is
> evidenced by their practices. Some nations attack to other nations, they
> conquered them with weapons, or money buying politicians or exercise
> tyranny.
>
>
> If we take the seeds of a plant in granite, the plant will not flourish.
> In my opinion politicians are like granite, so the seeds of peace can not
> be flourished in stone souls. The belief that education will make people
> able to adopt peace, is a fallacy. Politicians are very educated, like
> whoever scientists who have the knowledge and manufacture weapons, nuclear,
> biological weapons, mutated, etc. they all don’t care about peace, at all.
>
>
> The implementation of grabbing the money , the raw materials , the soils
> of a country , as it happens currently in my country Greece , brought
> hunger and poverty , desperation and fear in humans. How these people can
> be considered free citizens , to think freely , to be interested in the
> concept and practice of peace under such adverse conditions? Look at
> yesterday's results of elections in Europe. How then can be convinced us
> that the Europe of unemployment and hunger is no peace . who manages
> Europe. The governments.
>
>
> So, the governments have no will to educate the population properly about
> peace, but the opposite.
>
> The year 775 b.C. king of the ancient city of Elis Ifitos sent a messenger
> to the oracle of Delphi to ask the oracle Pythia, what will bring harmony
> and peace in the Greek cities societies. Τhe oracle of Delphi proposed to
> revive the Olympic Competitions, and to crown the winners with a branch of
> wild olive. this award was called kotinos. “Kotinos” occurres from the
> Greek world “kotos” which is the highest level of a mix of malice plus
> rancor, odium and bad blood in the soul of humans. During the competition
> the runner for example was trying to win the other runners by himself. That
> was the real meaning of Olympic Competitions.
>
>
> So Ifitos, the legislator Lycurgus of Sparta and Kleisthenis of Pisa made
> the vast antiwar triumph of antiquity. They concluded a treaty term, the
> Sacred Truce, which was respected by the Greeks all around and applied as
> an inviolable rule of international law, even in the dramatic conflicts of
> the ancient world. With this Sacred Truce the area of Olympia and Elis
> declared as sacrosanct denied crossing troops from there lands and set the
> Sacred Month of the Olympic Games, during which they stop all hostilities.
>
>
> That’s why I insist for the SOUL CULTUR , and I sent my article for the
> GPS based on this. This I think may reach also the second good question, *the
> psychology of peace.*
>
>
> Of course we can not compare the governers like Iphitus, Cleisthenes and
> Lycurgus, with the current politicians and rulers. But if we can educate
> directly the people, especially children in schools and in families with
> the idea of Peace, then I believe that we will achieve our target, not via
> the current rulers and politicians I repeat.
>
> The knowledge nowadays is spread out via internet, reaching citizens and
> children. But If we manage to enter the GPS book in the universities, it
> will be a great achievement.
>
>
> with haronious wishes and Love
>
> Takis Ioannides
>
>
> ps tomorrow morning my mother will make a critical abdominal surgery. I
> shall try during nights to find time to contribute to two chaptres of GPS
> book till 31 May.
>
>
>
>
> 2014-05-26 11:21 GMT+03:00 Takis Ioannides <takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >:
>
> Dear Leo and co peace makers of GHA.
>> About the first question I think I have the answer, coming from the order
>> given by Delfi to king of city of ilida Ifitos, in order to bring peace and
>> progress of the Greek cities-kindoms, via OLYMPIC competitions, not games.
>> When i return home tonight from the hospital I shall sent it to you. I
>> have mentioned this in a book of mine.
>>
>> About the phsyhology of peace, i describe it via my essay i sent for the
>> GPS book.
>>
>> Sorry i have to stop my message here, problem....
>>
>> With peace and love
>> Takis
>>
>> Στις Παρασκευή, 23 Μαΐου 2014, ο χρήστης Leo Semashko
>> leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx [peace-from-harmony] <
>> peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> έγραψε:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Bruce,
>>>
>>> Many thanks for your deep thoughts and kind words of support and also
>>> for your editing.
>>>
>>> You put some very important questions that I do not have the clear
>>> answers now.
>>>
>>> The first question is how to involve the governments and leaders in the
>>> new peace thinking with peace classification of the population? The first
>>> thing that is required here - it is change in education, as we have talked
>>> a lot in the GHA. Second - this is understanding of the political
>>> importance of such thinking. Third - it's understanding of the advantages
>>> of the new thinking of spheres and SPHERONS. Of course, it sounds very
>>> abstract yet but a more specific answer I do not have now.
>>>
>>> The second question is the psychology of peace. This is another science,
>>> although it is closely linked with GPS. This requires the private
>>> approaches similar to Galtung, etc. Every new theory not only solves the
>>> old problem but also raises the new questions, which takes many time to
>>> answer them and test those answers. This will be our next step.
>>>
>>> With love, best harmony wishes,
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>> Dr Leo Semashko:
>>> State Councillor of St. Petersburg,
>>> Philosopher, Sociologist and Peacemaker from Harmony;
>>> Director: Tetrasociology Public Institute, Russia;
>>> Founding President, Global Harmony Association (GHA) since 2005;
>>> Director, GHA Website "Peace from Harmony": www.peacefromharmony.org
>>> Global Peace Science from Harmony:
>>> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=585 and
>>> In Russian: www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=ru_c&key=606;
>>> World Interfaith Harmony Project on the ABC of Harmony Base:
>>> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=541;
>>> GHA Program Book, The ABC of Harmony for World Peace:
>>> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=478;
>>> GHA Peace Video: http://youtu.be/hbxY5lREOeA;
>>> My Web page: www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=253;
>>> Address: 7/4-42 Ho-Shi-Min Street, St. Petersburg 194356, Russia
>>> Phone: 7 (812) 597-65-71; Skype: leo.semahko
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/leo.semashko?ref=tn_tnmn
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Bruce Cook, AuthorMe.com, cookcomm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: 21 мая 2014 г., 17:36:40
>>> Subject: [gha] Some Thoughts of First Two Chapters
>>>
>>> Dear members,
>>>
>>> Leo has asked me to share some thoughts on the first two chapters of the
>>> GHA's new book, which I have edited.
>>>
>>> Perhaps others in the group will have a similar reaction.
>>>
>>> First, I believe we should state that our purpose is to create harmony
>>> in the world. And our individual articles in the book will suggest some
>>> ways in which that may be made more possible.
>>>
>>> With regard to the chapters themselves, I admire the intricate
>>> structuring Leo has devoted to his theory of Global Peace Science. My
>>> problem lies with the *purpose* of the categories he describes in the
>>> complexity of his theory. I also admire his objectivity in presenting the
>>> theory.
>>>
>>> Naturally we can argue that there are various "classes" of people in
>>> every country of the world. And the world's census workers constantly work
>>> to refine these categories, especially the areas of employment, which is
>>> contrasted with age, sex, race, culture. Leo has created a separate
>>> classificatory system in which it is easier to pinpoint those in the
>>> world's populations who might be categorized as peacemakers. As Leo
>>> observes, until this peaceful mindset is adopted, the existing militaristic
>>> mindset is most like to prevail.
>>>
>>> What's missing, for me, is the jump between these classifications and
>>> the leadership of nations. For example, it's possible (and very likely) to
>>> have a nation with almost 100% of the population in agreement with a
>>> peaceful mindset. But, as we all know, the leaders of nations feel
>>> themselves in competition for power in relationship with leaders of other
>>> nations and tend to become obsessed with their personal charisma (like a
>>> Hollywood actor or singer on drugs). In that situation, despite the most
>>> favorable sociological classifications, peace takes second place. And our
>>> problem becomes how to handle these power brokers. How to persuade them to
>>> work with each other in productive ways. Thus, we find ourselves discussing
>>> conflict resolution and psychology, etc. in the school of thought founded
>>> by Johan Galtung. And, above all, how to persuade leaders to avoid killing
>>> people as a measure of a success.
>>>
>>> But I lack the sociological perspective that seems to cover this lapse.
>>> Perhaps there is some way in which classifying people in a new way will
>>> lead to harmony and peace. If so, I endorse the exercise. I will do my best
>>> to edit the book to help clarify everyone's ideas.
>>>
>>> Yours in pursuit of harmony and peace,
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> Bruce L. Cook, Ph.D.
>>> President, GHA-USA
>>> Vice-President, GHA
>>> Director of CSSS Publishing and Editorial team
>>> President, World Writers Resources, Inc.
>>> Author, *Harmony of Nations: 1943 – 2020*, Just Fiction Editions, 2012
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