Well done Allen. You have again shown how dangerous it is to allow analogy confuse the facts. You put the word "pressure" in quotes, where it should be. This "pressure" might be reflected from the edge, like a wave. I am reminded of the theory of co-axial transmission lines terminated in an open circuit. Here all the "Pressure" wave is reflected. ----- Original Message ----- From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: geocentrism and aether I think the question is a good one and worth considering..but i think the nature of the "pressure" is gong to determine what if any significant difference at the poles if any or not............As with any pressure exerted by/in a "fluid" ( aether) the source of the pressure will affect the way in which is it exerted.... example.... A spherical swimming pool( of sea water) will exert "static pressure" on objects suspended it in...the amount of static pressure is determined by the depth of the object imbedded in it.. ~every 33 feet depth in seawater increases by 1 atmosphere of static pressure...static pressure is practically equal in all 360x360x360 degrees that is it is equal on all sides X,Y & Z axis.......for any object inbeded in a sherical chamber completley filled with water (universe)the outer most part of the sherical chamber of water (universe) will have the same preasure as the center (earths location) does........I suggest as well as any axis within it save very small almost imperceptible deviations..what would most likely affect/determine this is the size of the chamber ( universe) Now take wave or current action(s) within the chamber, thoes are not static and that pressure is not equal on all sides it is pressure in the fluid but it exerts "pressure" only in the direction of travel or direction of current...spin of the swimming pool can directly affect the/any currents traveling within this chamber........ie. the CMB Now take a vibration in the fluid if the vibration is "instantaneous" that is to say no perceptible direction appears to come from all directions due to the speed and source of the vibration ..then that pressure would be above and beyond the static pressure and would be independent of the static pressure as well as the direction of any currents or the overall spin in the swimming pool itself... Each one of these can add "pressure" in the fluid/ swimming pool (aether) but each one can be affected and affect any distribution of particles suspended in it......both independently and in concert .....static pressure and the dynamic pressure created by waves/ currents as well as any harmonic(s) & or harmonic resonance - the state of a system in which an abnormally large vibration is produced in response to an external stimulus, occurring when the frequency of the stimulus is the same, or nearly the same, as the natural vibration frequency of the system. We think of this in terms of acoustic pressure but the principle is the same the only difference is the medium for the vibration(s) to propagate themselves ..........air or water or aether. In such a dynamic environment it could be but there may not be any significant/ measurable deviation from the overall "pressure" ( the added combined value for all pressures .. the static and dynamic)...of the aether in all 360x360x360 degrees of the fluid in question (aether) in any location within the aether.....? the paper i offered for reading suggest that there are slight deviations of pressure "is gravity time dependent". However, that still dose not nor would not determine if the overall "pressure"(pressure from both the static and dynamic) within the aether is not "relatively" the same..........The most significant differences would be noticed near and only near objects of varying sizes/masses due to the interaction of those mass and what ever is the cause(s) of the "pressure" that we observe and refer to as gravity.... ----- Original Message ---- From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 3:44:27 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: geocentrism and aether Philip, Yes, I've been thinking about what would happen along the axis myself recently. Two things keep our viewpoint sane, I would say. One is that the force of gravity at the poles here on the World is not zero, but is even slightly greater than its value at the equator. Secondly, if we assume that gravity is caused by pressure exerted by the aether, as I do in the geostationary satellites paper, then its value along the celestial polar axis would not remain constant, but would diminish as the potential in the fluid increased further from the World's surface. Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com -----Original Message----- From: pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:03:10 +1000 To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] geocentrism and aether Ok Neville, a little simple technical question. Consider if the the aether were a real material medium, just to help with me getting the picture straight. Perhaps a force field which rotates around the earth. It would appear that if we apply directions to vectors to represent this force, I would expect them to all radiate out from THE CENTRE OF THE WORLD. These vector lines would be cutting any stationary body above and on the earth at a rate dependent on the angle to the equator. My question concerns the position in space along the axis of rotation above the North and below the South. Because of the model I proposed, the "vectors" on the axis of rotation which is at rt angles to the equator, would not cut anything but merely rotate, (like an axle) My question is this.. If this is all true, then that peculiar condition relative to the aether must extend through out space North and south of the earth. along that axis. A star right on that axis would not be circling the world as our sun does, but merely rotating / or stationary as the case may be. I hope I have conveyed the imagery enough .. Its boggling my mind. I can understand how and why it is far simpler to accept the alternate position , that all the rest is static, and that the world rotates. The pagan heliocentrist has no reason to make it complicated because he has no reason to make this little world the centre of the universe. Philip. I have a much more difficult question in the drafts for later. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 9/10/2007 4:43 PM