Well said Philip! Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:05 AM Subject: [geocentrism] conspiracies and lies Paul, you are twisting motives or jumping to false conclusions by saying that GS resorts to ad hominum attacks such as accusations of lying, in order to cover an inability to justify our science. It is true that suggestions of scientific impossibilities have been raised to explain a moon landing hoax, but this was not to imply Nasa falsified science intentionally to support false science, but rather it was a political expediency.