Philip D @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ From philip madsen Sat Feb 10 04:32:33 2007 Paul said, "I do marvel at your credulity. You seem always to be poised like a compressed spring waiting to pounce on MS (not the charity I support [Chuckle]) on the most sparse and flimsiest of evidence. " and Paul this was by your own admission without having read the evidence. [1] So how can you call it sparse and flimsy with that "this means it is false" tone. [2] Let me remind you that most of the evidence supporting penecillin was flimsy and sparse as an Australlian, a Jew, and a Pommie did the hard work to make it proven. [3] Of course the evidence of a poured concrete pyramid is sparse but not flimsy. Naturally the problem is different when it concerns a chemistry which not all can fathom, like DNA evidence , accepted without qualification, by the unqualified, from the case of MS objection to heavier than air flight, till the man could actually build the aeroplane and fly.. [4] strange how MS science never apologises.... NEVER... they slink away, or deny they ever objected.. [5] and Paul, your objection is based upon your acceptance of the MS consensus of opinion, not a personal appraisal of the evidence.. [6] You do likewise regarding your opinions of supernatural phenomena.. MS says it does not happen, Paul refuses to look at any contrary evidence.. [7] No wonder you vote for a major party... Philip.. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ (I do miss being able to intersperse comments in *colour*!) [1] I did *peruse* the data, but there are only so many hours in a day. If I've decided wrongly, time will correct that. [2] No -- it doesn't mean it's false -- just that I am not convinced. [3] You have to put in the hard yards if you want to change public opinion. Do you think my role here is one of joy and bliss? [4] Time was when the US Patent Office did not require a working model in order to issue a patent. Have you ever noticed the kind of contraptions which got patents? [5] Success has a thousand fathers -- failure is an orphan. True for any philosophy. [6] ... but there are only so many hours in a day. And anyway, there were not all that many references to consult, especially those of a peer review type. [7] Pretty much as for [6]. If I see peer reviewed evidence to the contrary, my position may well change. (I have made that statement previously. I don't recall any other participant in this forum making a similar statement). Paul D Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com