Allen,The references to the Trinity are not in the least vague. One of Neville's problems, and I'm begining to think yours too, is because the word 'Trinity' is not mentioned in the Bible. The book that Neville destroyed said it all by showing all the scriptures related to every combination of God, Spirit and Jesus. There is no doubt whatsoever. Since Neville rejects the Bible anything he has to say on the subject can be ignored.
Jack Neville Jones wrote:
-----Original Message----- *From:* allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx *Sent:* Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Read carefully..I’m not anti- "Trinity"....................There are many analogies and similitudes regarding the Trinity and I think for the most part they are adequate. I will say, I personally don’t like using the word coz it is not found anywhere in scripture. Agreed. ... What is found in the scripture is a vague concept. It is that vague concept that we call "the trinity". But the text does not detail that concept nor does it ever mention any term with intrinsic meaning to refer to that vague concept except perhaps "us" and "One God". Agreed. This is part of the problem. We invent words that could only get any valid meaning from vague concepts found only from a source that does not bother to divulge that information and yet we still insist on assigning our invented words/ concepts with intrinsic, absolute values. We ge so caught up in our adhoc words that we loose sight of what we are given specifically. ... Neville.