Dr Neville, It is my understanding that the Sun, Moon, planets and stars are all being carried daily by the aether and/or by forces in the aether. Thus the Sun's daily orbit around the Earth is not a movement of its own, it is a movement of the aether. The (real) movement of the Sun is a north-south oscillation; this oscillation affects the Moon, all the Planets and the stars. This could be the real explanation for the star's aberration found by Bradley. Marc V. ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones Sent: 5 août 2007 17:25 To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Oscillation of Sun or Universe? Movement of the Sun around its orbit explains the seasons, but the stars (all of them) do exhibit something called aberration, which is best described as being tiny elipses. Neville. -----Original Message----- From: marc-veilleux@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 13:10:15 -0400 To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Oscillation of Sun or Universe? According to my knowledge, the positions of the stars don't move all year around relative to Earth, while the position of the Sun does move. So the universe cannot oscillate north-south in a yearly motion; only the Sun can do that relative to both Earth and stars. The Sun can oscillate north-south while orbiting daily around the Earth. The yearly oscillation explains for the seasons. Marc V.