According to my knowledge, the positions of the stars don't move all year around relative to Earth, while the position of the Sun does move. So the universe cannot oscillate north-south in a yearly motion; only the Sun can do that relative to both Earth and stars. The Sun can oscillate north-south while orbiting daily around the Earth. The yearly oscillation explains for the seasons. Marc V. ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones Sent: 3 août 2007 19:59 To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth deception Philip, Yes, it's an oscillation that Steven and I built into GU 2.1 and 2.2, but my feeling is that there must be a "better" explanation than attaching star movement to the Sun. Neville. -----Original Message----- From: pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:54:32 +1000 To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth deception Why does the universe have to "wobble ... to account for the seasons"? Neville. When the sun goes North and south, do all the stars do likewise? If so then the universe must have an annual vibration north and south.. I spose that is not a wobble. but an oscillation.. Phil. Get Free 5GB Email – Check out spam free email with many cool features! Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more!