Neville said, "The speed of light limitation is far more of a problem in a huge universe than in a 'small' universe, but is still there, I grant you." First let me say I like this diversion. I was not enjoying at all all the "cameras in orbits." on things that nobody knows is moving. So we can keep the subject line .. As far as I can imagine, if it is impossible for the sun to encircle the earth daily at 3.14159x 2 AU per day, Then anything up to infinity likewise. (I'm assuming I worked it out that this orbit was faster than 186000mps, ) some way back, but the principle stands even if I am wrong. I could have asked for Sirius. I see a gramaphone record spinning. Its fluid allows local systems movement. There is nothing else outside that fluid. It could be TIME. PART OF A FOUR DIMENSIONAL OBJECT. God is smart and powerful enough to do that is He not? And sections of science are already well and truly discussing this. We are just simple 3D folk. Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: For Phillip Philip, Undoubtedly the central position of the World is not something that many people want to even contemplate. The speed of light limitation is far more of a problem in a huge universe than in a 'small' universe, but is still there, I grant you. As for parallax, I have a different interpretation of that, as Jack has been alluding to with Regner. Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com -----Original Message----- From: pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:27:03 +1000 Neville, I disagreed on the need for the stars to centre on the sun, rather than the earth. I raised the question with Robert S but I did not argue because I was unsure of the degree of difference in observed parallax between a rotation around either centre. But looking at the animation, unless the planets had their own orbits centred on the sun, then their observed parallaxe's would be all wrong.. I guessed the same would apply for the rest of the stars. GWW inferred, that the universe rotates around the world, in which all the systems are imbedded, including the stars around the sun. This would make the observations equivalent as regards the annual parallax. Incidently as well, it is integral to the explanation of relativity and the speed of light limitation on mass objection to these objects appearing to exceed this speed in circling the world... All very intrigueing. If the earth is so unique, this poses a problem for science as to why! Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: For Phillip Philip, GWW is, in my opinion, the finest scientific work to date on geocentrism, but I would disagree with the authors over the snippet you have copied in to your post. This is a subtle difference, however, and need not concern us at the current stage of this debate. Regards, Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com -----Original Message----- From: pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:53:42 +1000 Messages coming in fine thanks Steven. Still cannot understand why all the discussion over Parallax. Whether it was a Heliocentric or Earth centred system, the same parallax would be observed. This was decided here long ago. Parallax is not involved for the star trails being discussed concerning the North star as I thought all had agreed that the effect of the parallax ellipses were too small to be detected with ordinary photo equipment. From GWW. Philip. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 22/11/2007 6:55 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free 3D Marine Aquarium Screensaver Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at www.inbox.com/marineaquarium ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: 22/11/2007 6:55 PM