[geocentrism] Re: For Phillip

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:36:41 +1000

Neville said, 
"The speed of light limitation is far more of a problem in a huge universe than 
in a 'small' universe, but is still there, I grant you." 

First let me say I like this diversion. I was not enjoying at all all the 
"cameras in orbits." on things that nobody knows is moving. So we can keep the 
subject line .. 


As far as I can imagine, if it is impossible for the sun to encircle the earth 
daily at  3.14159x 2 AU per day, Then anything up to infinity likewise. (I'm 
assuming I worked it out that this orbit was faster than 186000mps, )  some way 
back, but the principle stands even if I am wrong. I could have asked for 
Sirius. 

I see a gramaphone record spinning. Its fluid allows local systems movement. 
There is nothing else outside that fluid. It could be TIME. PART OF A FOUR 
DIMENSIONAL OBJECT.

God is smart and powerful enough to do that is He not? And sections of science 
are already well and truly discussing this. We are just simple 3D folk.

Philip





  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neville Jones 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:20 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: For Phillip


  Philip,

  Undoubtedly the central position of the World is not something that many 
people want to even contemplate.

  The speed of light limitation is far more of a problem in a huge universe 
than in a 'small' universe, but is still there, I grant you.

  As for parallax, I have a different interpretation of that, as Jack has been 
alluding to with Regner.

  Neville 

  www.GeocentricUniverse.com



    -----Original Message-----
    From: pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:27:03 +1000


    Neville, I disagreed on the need for the stars to centre on the sun, rather 
than the earth. I raised the question with Robert S but I did not argue because 
I was unsure of the degree of difference in observed parallax between a 
rotation around either centre. 

    But looking at the animation, unless the planets had their own orbits 
centred on the sun, then their observed parallaxe's would be all wrong.. I 
guessed the same would apply for the rest of the stars. 

    GWW inferred, that the universe rotates around the world, in which all the 
systems are imbedded, including the stars around the sun. This would make the 
observations equivalent as regards the annual parallax. 

    Incidently as well, it is integral to the explanation of relativity and the 
speed of light limitation on mass objection to these objects appearing to 
exceed this speed in circling the world... All very intrigueing. If the earth 
is so unique, this poses a problem for science as to why! 

    Philip. 




      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Neville Jones 
      To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:49 AM
      Subject: [geocentrism] Re: For Phillip


      Philip,

      GWW is, in my opinion, the finest scientific work to date on geocentrism, 
but I would disagree with the authors over the snippet you have copied in to 
your post. This is a subtle difference, however, and need not concern us at the 
current stage of this debate.

      Regards,

      Neville

      www.GeocentricUniverse.com



        -----Original Message-----
        From: pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:53:42 +1000


        Messages coming in fine thanks Steven. 

        Still cannot understand why all the discussion over Parallax. Whether 
it was a Heliocentric or Earth centred system, the same parallax would be 
observed. This was decided here long ago. Parallax is not involved for the star 
trails being discussed concerning the North star as I thought all had agreed 
that the effect of the parallax ellipses were too small to be detected with 
ordinary photo equipment. 
          
        From GWW.



        Philip. 


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