[geocentrism] Re: Celestial Poles

  • From: j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:45:46 -0800 (PST)

The camera, when fixed to the earth follows the nightly axis and thus changes 
orientation with regard to any other axis, including the 24 hour path you are 
trying to use to record an annual... it still moves around the nightly axis and 
thereby changes angles with the annual.
   
  Think of the difference between the camera locations and angle to the annual 
axis when the camera is 6 months apart.... From winter to summer is the easiest 
to see.... don't use fall to spring.

Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    The cameras orientation to any and all axis or latitudes in the sky never 
changes ....


Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:       Blue......
  Allen, Your conception and logic are all correct, except for camera position 
during recording. The camera postion never changes ..?The camera must maintain 
the same angle to the axis in question during recording.   It does!.I have 
demonstrated this as a fact not jsut the circular reasoning that keeps getting 
passed around...( you can only see it if there is a rotation.. There is no 
rotation, that?s why you can?t see it)..Never mind that the cameras orientation 
to the common point in question is in a radial orientation to that point every 
24 hours and the angle of the camera never changes to the axis we are trying to 
observe and that simply looking away does not make it or the effect go away 
...!? 
The camera in all cases under consideration (and in my drawing) still rotate 
about the nightly axis, therefore it will only record a nightly star trail. 
That is a assertion that is the point of discussion here. However,  It also 
rotates around the ecliptic axis. the orbit also translates to the ecliptic 
plane not the celestial axis. the two are not one and the same thing. In order 
to record an annual star trail, the camera must rotate about the annual 
axis..and to do that you must change the angle of the camera with each 
photo.absolutly not.. but this would work for a fictitious axis too. yes any 
path that can produce a radial oreintaion to a common point.
   
  JA...
    
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