[geocentrism] Re: Celestial Poles

  • From: j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:52:48 -0700 (PDT)

Yes please do, I'm a visual learner. Written discriptions are too difficult for 
me to grasp sometimes, probably why I'm having trouble getting the star trails 
argument.
 
By the way, if my opinion counts, I enjoy this forum alot. I didn't enjoy all 
the religious argueing a month or so ago, glad it was stopped, it reminded me 
too much of what I dislike in many christians. Until I ran across Dr Jones' 
website a couple months ago, I didn't know it was even argueable that the world 
didn't rotate or that it was possibly biblical. I've long been an avid reader 
of information refuting evolution and have enjoyed learning about this line of 
reasoning. If you do close the forum, I'll thank you all now for your work in 
this area and wish you all success in it's continuation.
 
James...
"Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"I think it would be good if Dr Jones could SIMM this in GU 2005."

Good suggestion, Allen, I'll see what we can do.

Neville.

Allen Daves wrote:
Since the Earth is not moving in a GS model and in the HC it is moving around 
the sun, the only way star trails could appear in a GS model is if the whole 
universe was vibrating around the earth over a period of one year with a 3% 
elliptical and a ~150 million mile radius. But there are no star trails, which 
excludes the possibility of the earth moving around the sun. As Dr Jones points 
out, if the nightly star trails are due to a ~7000 mile circle (spin) of the 
earth then the 300,000,000 mile circle that the earth makes around the sun 
should produce annual star trails that are ~42,000 thousand times larger than 
the nightly ones. If the nightly star trails are due to a say ~.0000005 of a 
degree angle between the observer and the star and that produces a star trail 
that is say ~.5 inch across (in the sky)over the course of one night then over 
the course a year it should produce one~43,000 times that size or ~21,500 
inches in dia, because the nightly circle is only ~7000 miles 
big in
diameter, the yearly is ~300,000,000 million miles big. How could it not be 
there? But it is not there! If ~3500 miles (Earth?s Radius)represents .0000005 
of a degree at 430lys, then the angle of the observer after moving 300,000,000 
miles away would change drastically from .0000005 of one degree to ~.214 of a 
degree from where it was before. I?m not using trig here just REAL ROUGH 
numbers off the top of my head. In any case it is a big difference. I think it 
would be good if Dr Jones could SIMM this in GU 2005. 

Allen
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