[geocentrism] Re: Celestial Poles

• From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
• To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
• Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:00:42 -0700 (PDT)

```Imagine you have a pice of pie. At the center of that pie you draw a angle of 1
degree. 1 inch away from the point of origine of the angle now at the edge of
the pie that same one degree will be proportionaly larger than the part at the
point of origin. If you create a angle which is ~.0000005 of one degree, 430LY
away that angle will take up ~7000 miles of space.
Allen
j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What do you mean by "the displacement of that angle will be proportionally
larger"? How is that angle displaced? Measuring a stars distance in HC or GC,
each system will produce an angle according to its' assumptions and that angle
remains the same.
Allen Daves wrote:Correction: This is what I meant.

The further away the earth is from a given star the smaller the angle will be
but the displacement of whatever that angle is will also be proportionally
larger.

Allen Daves wrote:Both GS and HC are essentially just a mathematical coordinate
systems for what we observe here on Earth. A method for calculating how far
away and where something is going to be at any given time in the heavens when
we look up. The appearance of motion is identical, It is the theoretical motion
that gets the stars and planets to the right place at the right time that
differs. However, at externally large distances any discrepancies in the two
methods for achieving those positions will show up. This is due to the fact
that a ~.0000005 of a angel at the point of origin is imperceptible to the
observer at the point of origin, however at 430ly away it will displace ~7926
miles. The average male is 5?6". Relatively specking the displacement of that
angle at that distance is overwhelmingly enormous compared to the observer. The
further away the earth is from a given star the smaller the angle will be but
so to will the displacement of w
hatever
that angle is. Basically, we as the ob
servers
will always be microscopic compared to the displacement of the angles at those
distances, thus we can observe this phenomena quite readily.

It is interesting to note that the HC have estimated Polaris' distance from
Earth to be everywhere from 360 to 820 light years . The 430ly figure is from
the Hipparchus satellite estimates.

j a wrote:"Incidentally, these star trails can only be explained by a rotating
universe, rather than by a rotating World."

Why is this true? I thought that the appearance of motion in either HC or GC
were the same?

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