I apologise if I am wrong.. I had a quick look at their main site.. I didn't see the Name of Jesus mentioned anywhere. see http://www.ifmj.org/aboutus.htm Perhaps there is another sect. Carl you might give us a some enlightenment... Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl B. To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 11:34 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Ancient calendars Phillip -- I disagree, Phillip. Messianic Jews most certainly are Christians. Most all the early Christians were Jews who had found their Messiah. Jesus is the messiah the Jews have been waiting for. A Jew who recognizes and accepts that fact is a Messianic Jew. They are a Christian by faith and a Jew by birth -- meaning that their ancesters crossed the Red Sea, were the ones spoken of the Old Testament. Jesus Himself was a Jew. Jews are commanded to celebrate the Jewish holidays as a reminder to themselves and to the world, as a testimony of the wonderful miracles God has done, i.e. we're celebrating history here, not fairy tales. Sincerely, Cheryl Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:25 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Ancient calendars > Messianic Jews are not Christian Cheryl. > Philip. >