Hi Cheryl, I've been watching for a while. Now I've jumped into the fray. I'm afraid that physics is not my strong point either, so I will not be able to weigh in on many issues. I have to admit that I was first introduced to geocentrism through Marshall Hall also. Could you explain more how the the sun crosses the 12 signs of the zodiac in the celestial ecliptic to map out the months? How does this correspond to the lunar months? Is this closer to a set of 12 30 day months than the lunar months? I have worshipped with Messianic Jews, but currently am not part of any formal religious organization. Have you noticed that if you toe the line in any organization everything is pleasant, but if you question any of the cherished beliefs you often become an outcast? Carl > >