[GeoStL] Re: Recent cache logs
- From: Dan Henke <thunder_monk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:27:30 -0700 (PDT)
-
Mike,
Cache maintanance is something altogether different
then logging complaining notes on where it is located
or how it is hidden....but even in the case of a cache
that was wet inside ...I might note it in my log and
then email the cache placer with the information as
well. But I would definetly NOT make a bunch of
negative comments about how this cache is not
maintained etc unless there are a number of comments
about it not being maintained in a row. I received 3
comments on my Collector's cache being wet before I
mananged to get there and pull the cache for
maintanace. It wasn't that I wan't concerned about it
...I was just extremely busy at the time and could
never even find a couple of minutes to get to it. So
sometimes there are extrenuating circumstances that
need to be taken into account. I don't know about you
or the rest of the cachers but I read every log the
comes in on my caches and I take them very much to
heart....if someone criticizes my caches I take it
seriously...I place them for a reason....sometimes the
reason is obscure or maybe not even very good but
there is a reason.
All I meant by the previous email was that some of the
comments I have seen lately could have been said in a
more humane way and not blast the cache placer.
Dan
--- Mike Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> -
> Opinions are like ________ well, you know the
> rest... However, I think that
> maybe a negative post is not that bad. I would first
> contact the cache owner
> if there is a problem rather than airing it out in
> the open. Honest mistakes
> happen. If the cache is in a disgusting area, you
> are right, they don't have
> to do it. However, if the cache is not maintained
> and it seems that the
> owner of the cache is not responsive, I think it
> only fair to warn others..
> An example might be, finding a cache where the
> contents are soaked and
> moldy. I think a note in the log would be good until
> the cache owner comes
> back and logs a note stating it has been taken care
> of. I wouldn't want to
> see, "Nice Cache." and then go out and find it in a
> trash dump or soaked
> with water. I think we should always be honest in
> our logs even if it is a
> negative comment.
>
> The person who posted that in your log about the
> Civil War cache, should
> have contacted you directly. Not finding a 1/1 is
> pretty bad, but, then not
> taking the time to email you with his concerns is
> even worse.
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Henke" <thunder_monk@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "geocaching" <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:53 AM
> Subject: [GeoStL] Recent cache logs
>
>
> > -
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I have a bit of a complaont and I have pulled out
> my
> > soap box to air it so be patient with me. There
> has
> > been a rash of recent logs that I have noticed
> that
> > are derogatory to the cache placer and I just
> would
> > like to know what you all think of this. I have
> > several cases in point:
> > 1. My Civil War cache....I just received a note
> that
> > stated the cacher could not find it. He also
> ranted a
> > bit about prisoners finding it and the fact that I
> had
> > not received permission to place it there. First
> the
> > people he talked with in the visitor center are
> > "Volunteers" who are there maybe once a month and
> have
> > NO idea what goes on outside the building they are
> > manning including knowing whether or not I have
> > permission. Secondly if the officer in charge was
> so
> > upset that his prisoners found the cache why did
> he
> > not confiscate it or bring it inside to the people
> at
> > the visitors center. Instead he placed it back in
> the
> > same place he found it. Assumptions are not
> welcome
> > and his log will be deleted from MY cache page.
> >
> > 2. The latest logged comments on the Smelly Rock
> > cache in Waynesville were totally uncalled for.
> True
> > this cache is not going to be on anyone's top 10
> list
> > but I have been there on two seperate occasions
> and
> > have noticed NO smell and the cache is in good
> shape.
> > I have no idea why they would place a cache there
> > either but I went to find it and I enjoyed it. If
> you
> > don't like the location DON:T look for it!!!!
> >
> > There are a few other examples I could talk about
> here
> > but I think you see what my gripe is. Why is it
> > necessary to comment in such a negative fashion?
> If I
> > don't like a cache or I don't think it is special
> I
> > just don't comment on it. I do not pretend to
> > understand why all caches are placed where they
> are
> > but hey they must have had their reasons. Caching
> is
> > supposed to be FUN and I don't appreciate someone
> > using the cache log as a forum to air their
> > gripes....if you have real concerns then email the
> > cache placer with them. Maybe they have a reason
> for
> > placing the cache that makes sense to them or
> maybe
> > they just did not think of the consequences when
> they
> > placed it there.
> > A good example of this would be the Leaking Earth
> > cache in Waynesville....when I did the cache I
> noticed
> > broken glass along the trail and the fact that you
> > have to climb a VERY steep hill to get there....I
> > emailed Greg with my concerns and he upped the
> > difficulty rating and made note in his description
> of
> > the hazards. Now if someone reads it and decides
> they
> > still want to do it they have been informed. I did
> NOT
> > put a negative comment there for the world to see
> and
> > wonder about.
> >
> > Dan now climbs off his soapbox and apologizes for
> the
> > ranting :D ...What do you all think?
> >
> > Dan (thunder)
> >
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