- Bernie and all I am normally a ?lurker? looking to learn as I have only been Geocaching for a bit over a year and only have about 120 to my credit, so I?m not an expert on cache placement or damage from caching. I have seen some areas that have been altered by Geocaching, geotrails come to mind, but as a hunter, animal trails tend to be only less damaging. I?m sure there are those among us that have little respect for the land and locales where we are permitted to cache, but, my overall perception is that the vast majority appreciate the freedom and flexibility that we have and act accordingly, wherever we can place a cache. We can also be self-policing in this. Much as we have seen in this thread regarding ?Monday morning quarterbacking?, we should also be directly correcting our compatriots ON THE SPOT, if we see something that is not right in the field. My wife is a genealogy buff and we have visited many a cemetery to collect ancestral information, take marker rubbings, and, in my case, this is where I go to visit most of my immediate family and some old friends, when I am back home. Live people visit dead people in cemeteries. It?s not a bad thing. In some areas, such as Savannah, GA, cemeteries are a major theme in caching, just don?t plan to cache after 5:00 PM, as they lock the gates. In fact, I am looking into placing a cache at a local (Lincoln County) cemetery due to its history and location, and because we need to remember these often ordinary folks who were much like ourselves, and often have no direct descendants today. Damage due to our pastime is never a desired result, but some will occur. Just as in the case of CITO, we should all be alert for damage that MAY have been the result of Geocaching, fix it if we can and report it to the responsible parties, if we can?t. The damage at this particular cache can?t be directly attributed to Geocaching, especially the way the cache notes are written, but I would have tended to pick up rocks that looked as if they should have been part of wall, replaced them and just reported my find, with no more than a note that I cleaned up around the area. The Boy Scouts have long had the credo to leave the area better than we found it, and that?s not a bad position for responsible cachers to have, which is already reflected in CITO, and can easily be expanded to include site cleanup. Savannah, GA just recently had a site-specific CITO that was to open up a historic area by more than trash cleanup, but would include overgrowth/undergrowth removal. Maybe it can all be boiled down to the Golden Rule, Do unto others? Wayne Known among cachers as Arthur TOAFK Wayne Lindberg "Semi" Retired -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bernie Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:21 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: HTM#1 Witches Cemetery RE: Bernie Dan, it just goes to show you that there are two sides to every story. Obviously most people didn't agree with me on my cemetery opinion. But, that is OK. I just stated what 'I' felt. I did notice that not hardly a comment was made on the damaging of old walls and foundations. Does that mean that people agree on that point? Bernie. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34442/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> **************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html **************************************** To unsubscribe from this list: send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field