I will be there as well and I will bring our current presentation laptop. Chuq On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Come to FGMLUG on Wednesday. Bring your accounting laptop. I’ll bring a > short CAT5 cable, Linksys wireless router, our new projector and a laptop. > The library will provide their usual NEC projector. Fr. Robert will have his > tweaked netbook or laptop. We’ll work on the X problem, the wireless access > problem and weekly accounting. > > Tom > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Mike Cook > *Sent:* Monday, June 08, 2009 14:32 > > *To:* frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0 > > > > I'm game (or is that gamy). If we're going to investigate it at the LUG > meeting I probably won't make it on Tues otherwise I'll make the WH session > and not the LUG. Whatever works for people. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Fr. Robert Bower" > Sent: Jun 8, 2009 2:06 PM > To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0 > > Why don't we do some investigation on this issue during LUG meeting on the > 10th. > > Thanks, > > > > Fr. Robert Bower > > Batushka's Web Hosting & Design > > frrobert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > 574.850.7982 > > http://www.batushkas.com > > http://www.batushkas.net > > > > Mike Cook wrote: > > I suspect the problems are related to Xorg and using multiple displays (1 > stream 2 displays). <rant>It makes no sense to me that Linux and everything > else using X, continues to have problems like this. It seems like display > technology just creeps along. So much of X seems like a kludge. </rant> I > would guess you have to direct the stream to the correct output. I haven't > had much time to look into it however. I'm pretty sure the answer lay in > multi-head display configuration for X. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Jun 8, 2009 9:54 AM > > To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0 > > > > One of the problems Chuq and I are running into is the laptop desktop > > will display on the projector as expected including the video > > application window (kplayer, xine, vlc) in which the video file is > > running on the desktop. The video application window on the projector > > displays its controls correctly, but the video playing inside the > > application window is blank (black). > > > > Tom > > > > Mike Cook wrote: > > > > On the Evo (and most recent laptops) the external display is treated > > like a second monitor on a dual head setup. So you probably need to > > set up a second display in Xorg.conf. > > > > See: > > http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/ <http://ozlabs.org/%7Ejk/docs/mergefb/> > > <http://ozlabs.org/%7Ejk/docs/mergefb/> > <http://ozlabs.org/%7Ejk/docs/mergefb/> > > http://www.astro.umd.edu/~teuben/linux/laptop-display.html > <http://www.astro.umd.edu/%7Eteuben/linux/laptop-display.html> > > <http://www.astro.umd.edu/%7Eteuben/linux/laptop-display.html> > <http://www.astro.umd.edu/%7Eteuben/linux/laptop-display.html> > > http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=7019.0 > > > > It looks like most people use xrandr > > <http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2> > <http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2> to do the deed. > > > > I know that under Windows XP the external display (incl the composite > > video output) is shown as a second display. I'll see what I can figure > > out by Tuesday. > > > > Mike > > > > Tom Brown wrote: > > > > Chuq couldn't get VL 5.9 on his Compaq Evo N600c to display a DVD > > video on the projector at the public library, nor would it work on > > our new Optoma projector. The video plays on the desktop but won't > > display through the VGA port on the projector. > > > > Is this caused by DRM crapware on the recordings? Is it a hardware > > software problem with the Compaq Evo N600c? Is it VL 5/6? > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Mike and Imre: > > > > Can you bring your Compaq N600c laptops to the warehouse Tuesday? You > > have Ubuntu and Puppy installed on your systems. We'll see how they > > handle video output to the projector. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > I tested a DVD on three laptops. Here are the findings. > > > > 1. Dell Inspiron B130 with VL 6.0 > > > > The LCD/DVD toggle function key combo doesn't work so the projector > > must be connected to the laptop VGA port at boot up to display video > > thru the port. This degrades the resolution of the image on the > > desktop, but the the projected image seems OK, and the DVD plays. > > > > 2. Compaq Evo N600c with VL 5.9 Deluxe > > > > The LCD/DVD toggle function key combo doesn't work so the projector > > must be connected to the laptop VGA port at boot up to display video > > thru the port. The DVD plays on the desktop, but the projected image > > is blank. This happens on xine and kplayer. > > > > 3. Dell Latitude D600 with XP Pro > > > > Everything works as expected. > > > > Fr. Robert used a command line utility, xrandr, on his EeePC which > > considerably improved results on the VGA port. I believe he has > > Ubuntu installed on his EeeePC We should probably experiment with > > xrandr our VL laptops. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > ** This list is PUBLICLY archived. ** > > PLEASE don't post personal or sensitive information unless you wish > > for it to be in the public domain. > > > > To post to the list send email to frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > The archive is available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/frgeek-michiana/ > > > > You may unsubscribe or change your list settings by going to the list > > website at //www.freelists.org/webpage/frgeek-michiana > > > > > > > > ** This list is PUBLICLY archived. ** > > PLEASE don't post personal or sensitive information unless you wish > > for it to be in the public domain. > > > > To post to the list send email to frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > The archive is available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/frgeek-michiana/ > > > > You may unsubscribe or change your list settings by going to the list > > website at //www.freelists.org/webpage/frgeek-michiana > > > > > > ** This list is PUBLICLY archived. ** > > PLEASE don't post personal or sensitive information unless you wish for it to > be in the public domain. > > > > To post to the list send email to frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > The archive is available at //www.freelists.org/archives/frgeek-michiana/ > > > > You may unsubscribe or change your list settings by going to the list website > at //www.freelists.org/webpage/frgeek-michiana > > > > > > > > ** This list is PUBLICLY archived. ** > > PLEASE don't post personal or sensitive information unless you wish for it to > be in the public domain. > > > > To post to the list send email to frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > The archive is available at //www.freelists.org/archives/frgeek-michiana/ > > > > You may unsubscribe or change your list settings by going to the list website > at //www.freelists.org/webpage/frgeek-michiana > > > > > > > > > > ** This list is PUBLICLY archived. ** PLEASE don't post personal or > sensitive information unless you wish for it to be in the public domain. 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