[frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0

  • From: chuq jackels <chuq00@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:39:53 -0400

I will be there as well and I will bring our current presentation laptop.

Chuq

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Come to FGMLUG on Wednesday. Bring your accounting laptop. I’ll bring a
> short CAT5 cable, Linksys wireless router, our new projector and a laptop.
> The library will provide their usual NEC projector. Fr. Robert will have his
> tweaked netbook or laptop. We’ll work on the X problem, the wireless access
> problem and weekly accounting.
>
> Tom
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> frgeek-michiana-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Mike Cook
> *Sent:* Monday, June 08, 2009 14:32
>
> *To:* frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0
>
>
>
> I'm game (or is that gamy). If we're going to investigate it at the LUG
> meeting I probably won't make it on Tues otherwise I'll make the WH session
> and not the LUG. Whatever works for people.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Fr. Robert Bower"
> Sent: Jun 8, 2009 2:06 PM
> To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0
>
> Why don't we do some investigation on this issue during LUG meeting on the
> 10th.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>
>
> Fr. Robert Bower
>
> Batushka's Web Hosting & Design
>
> frrobert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> 574.850.7982
>
> http://www.batushkas.com
>
> http://www.batushkas.net
>
>
>
> Mike Cook wrote:
>
> I suspect the problems are related to Xorg and using multiple displays (1 
> stream 2 displays). <rant>It makes no sense to me that Linux and everything 
> else using X, continues to have problems like this. It seems like display 
> technology just creeps along. So much of X seems like a kludge. </rant> I 
> would guess you have to direct the stream to the correct output. I haven't 
> had much time to look into it however. I'm pretty sure the answer lay in 
> multi-head display configuration for X.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
>
> From: Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sent: Jun 8, 2009 9:54 AM
>
> To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0
>
>
>
> One of the problems Chuq and I are running into is the laptop desktop
>
> will display on the projector as expected including the video
>
> application window (kplayer, xine, vlc) in which the video file is
>
> running on the desktop. The video application window on the projector
>
> displays its controls correctly, but the video playing inside the
>
> application window is blank (black).
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> Mike Cook wrote:
>
>
>
> On the Evo (and most recent laptops) the external display is treated
>
> like a second monitor on a dual head setup. So you probably need to
>
> set up a second display in Xorg.conf.
>
>
>
> See:
>
> http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/ <http://ozlabs.org/%7Ejk/docs/mergefb/>
>
> <http://ozlabs.org/%7Ejk/docs/mergefb/> 
> <http://ozlabs.org/%7Ejk/docs/mergefb/>
>
> http://www.astro.umd.edu/~teuben/linux/laptop-display.html 
> <http://www.astro.umd.edu/%7Eteuben/linux/laptop-display.html>
>
> <http://www.astro.umd.edu/%7Eteuben/linux/laptop-display.html> 
> <http://www.astro.umd.edu/%7Eteuben/linux/laptop-display.html>
>
> http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=7019.0
>
>
>
> It looks like most people use xrandr
>
> <http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2> 
> <http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2> to do the deed.
>
>
>
> I know that under Windows XP the external display (incl the composite
>
> video output) is shown as a second display. I'll see what I can figure
>
> out by Tuesday.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Tom Brown wrote:
>
>
>
> Chuq couldn't get VL 5.9 on his Compaq Evo N600c to display a DVD
>
> video on the projector at the public library, nor would it work on
>
> our new Optoma projector. The video plays on the desktop but won't
>
> display through the VGA port on the projector.
>
>
>
> Is this caused by DRM crapware on the recordings? Is it a hardware
>
> software problem with the Compaq Evo N600c? Is it VL 5/6?
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike and Imre:
>
>
>
> Can you bring your Compaq N600c laptops to the warehouse Tuesday? You
>
> have Ubuntu and Puppy installed on your systems. We'll see how they
>
> handle video output to the projector.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I tested a DVD on three laptops. Here are the findings.
>
>
>
> 1. Dell Inspiron B130 with VL 6.0
>
>
>
> The LCD/DVD toggle function key combo doesn't work so the projector
>
> must be connected to the laptop VGA port at boot up to display video
>
> thru the port. This degrades the resolution of the image on the
>
> desktop, but the the projected image seems OK, and the DVD plays.
>
>
>
> 2. Compaq Evo N600c with VL 5.9 Deluxe
>
>
>
> The LCD/DVD toggle function key combo doesn't work so the projector
>
> must be connected to the laptop VGA port at boot up to display video
>
> thru the port. The DVD plays on the desktop, but the projected image
>
> is blank. This happens on xine and kplayer.
>
>
>
> 3. Dell Latitude D600 with XP Pro
>
>
>
> Everything works as expected.
>
>
>
> Fr. Robert used a command line utility, xrandr, on his EeePC which
>
> considerably improved results on the VGA port. I believe he has
>
> Ubuntu installed on his EeeePC We should probably experiment with
>
> xrandr our VL laptops.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom
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