[frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0

  • From: Mike Cook <mikecook@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:31:51 -0400 (EDT)

I'm game (or is that gamy). If we're going to investigate it at the LUG meeting I probably won't make it on Tues otherwise I'll make the WH session and not the LUG. Whatever works for people.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: "Fr. Robert Bower"
Sent: Jun 8, 2009 2:06 PM
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0

Why don't we do some investigation on this issue during LUG meeting on the 10th.
Thanks,

Fr. Robert Bower
Batushka's Web Hosting & Design
frrobert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
574.850.7982
http://www.batushkas.com
http://www.batushkas.net


Mike Cook wrote:
I suspect the problems are related to Xorg and using multiple displays (1 stream 2 displays). <rant>It makes no sense to me that Linux and everything else using X, continues to have problems like this. It seems like display technology just creeps along. So much of X seems like a kludge. </rant> I would guess you have to direct the stream to the correct output. I haven't had much time to look into it however. I'm pretty sure the answer lay in multi-head display configuration for X.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
  
From: Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Jun 8, 2009 9:54 AM
To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: Digital projectors and VL 5.9/6.0

One of the problems Chuq and I are running into is the laptop desktop 
will display on the projector as expected including the video 
application window (kplayer, xine, vlc) in which the video file is 
running on the desktop. The video application window on the projector 
displays its controls correctly, but the video playing inside the 
application window is blank (black).

Tom

Mike Cook wrote:
    
On the Evo (and most recent laptops) the external display is treated 
like a second monitor on a dual head setup. So you probably need to 
set up a second display in Xorg.conf.

See:
http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/ 
<http://ozlabs.org/%7Ejk/docs/mergefb/>
http://www.astro.umd.edu/~teuben/linux/laptop-display.html 
<http://www.astro.umd.edu/%7Eteuben/linux/laptop-display.html>
http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=7019.0

It looks like most people use xrandr 
<http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2> to do the deed.

I know that under Windows XP the external display (incl the composite 
video output) is shown as a second display. I'll see what I can figure 
out by Tuesday.

Mike

Tom Brown wrote:
      
Chuq couldn't get VL 5.9 on his Compaq Evo N600c to display a DVD 
video on the projector at the public library, nor would it work on 
our new Optoma projector. The video plays on the desktop but won't 
display through the VGA port on the projector.

Is this caused by DRM crapware on the recordings? Is it a hardware 
software problem with the Compaq Evo N600c? Is it VL 5/6?

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Mike and Imre:

Can you bring your Compaq N600c laptops to the warehouse Tuesday? You 
have Ubuntu and Puppy installed on your systems. We'll see how they 
handle video output to the projector.

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I tested a DVD on three laptops. Here are the findings.

1. Dell Inspiron B130 with VL 6.0

The LCD/DVD toggle function key combo doesn't work so the projector 
must be connected to the laptop VGA port at boot up to display video 
thru the port. This degrades the resolution of the image on the 
desktop, but the the projected image seems OK, and the DVD plays.

2. Compaq Evo N600c with VL 5.9 Deluxe

The LCD/DVD toggle function key combo doesn't work so the projector 
must be connected to the laptop VGA port at boot up to display video 
thru the port. The DVD plays on the desktop, but the projected image 
is blank. This happens on xine and kplayer.

3. Dell Latitude D600 with XP Pro

Everything works as expected.

Fr. Robert used a command line utility, xrandr, on his EeePC which 
considerably improved results on the VGA port. I believe he has 
Ubuntu installed on his EeeePC We should probably experiment with 
xrandr our VL laptops.


Tom




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