It sounds like BSER to backup server on 2nd Ethernet is the way to go. However, at this point we have a very small system (3 P92 WPs and 1 P91 Server), and do not have BSER or a backup server. We currently use the standard Windows Backup utility to a SCSI 8mm AIT tape drive connected to our P91 as described in B0700BX - P91 Server 2003 System Administration and B0400HE_D - Windows XP System Administration Guides. We backup both the C: and D: partitions and System State of all 4 machines on a periodic bases. We also make independent backups of all our application files - IACC Database, FoxDraw, Env, Historian Configuration, etc. on a more frequent basis or anytime there has been a significant change. There is not much that changes on the system, and we do not have any mandated process data archiving requires at this time. Our Invensys Service Engineer has told us we would have what we need to rebuild and get any of the stations back up and running in production. Does any one of the more knowledgeable and experienced people on the list see any problems or potential gotchas to this strategy? Thank you, Tom Badura Plastics Engineering Company tbadura@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Brian, Second using the BESR. It's been blessed by Invensys and is less scary for a customer to install on a node. The setup I've had the best results with is BESR with BESR Manager,(additional package), on a separate server. That way, the backup schedule can be managed from one location. The servers are backup up daily, the workstations, monthly or quarterly as desired. The backup rotation typically used in the IT world is a standard GFS, Grandfather,Father,Son. The Son is daily, with one graduating to Father status weekly. The Father is weekly with one graduating to Grandfather status monthly. The Grandfather is moved to off site. Off site can be another server is a remote location. Keep as many monthly backups as desired. Speaking from experience,(bad), disk space is way cheaper than losing data, or explaining why data isn't there on a restore. Hope this helps. Contact if you have any questions. Regards, Rick Mol Coyote Technologies Rick.Mol@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Thanks for all the replies, one question though, if using a centralized backup server how is it backed up and how do you handle off site copies? Thanks, Brian _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave