Dear Mr. Wayne James, Please email me directly and I will explain it to you, how it's setup, etc. It's very easy. Don't be persuaded or taken-aback by these "consultants" (Mr. Tolmachoff) who pretend it's all very difficult so they can charge $200.00 an hour. It's not. Look forward to chatting with you. Cheers, Jared wljames@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] --- Donavon Yelton <dyelton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > I'm for once glad that someone else shares the same > views as me. Every > single day when I read through the e-mails from this > list I'm bombarded > with John's comments regarding the "read the > archives" or "get an > education" and it's becoming old. I would consider > myself an > experienced Exchange admin and there are sometimes > when I'm baffled and > though the answer may be out there, though hard to > find, sometimes it's > just easier to ask a collective group of people the > question and get an > answer back quicker. I'm not for writing a book to > the user asking how > to be an Exchange admin, but I am with Simon in the > fact that this is a > place where folks can come for help, and as long as > anyone barks at > those who come here for help the list will dwindle > down. Hell, I'm > scared to even ask a question, however hard it may > be to me because I > know that John is going to come back and make me > feel like shit in front > of the entire list, so I choose not to and I've > considered just dropping > the list all-together. When I first joined it > seemed as though people > actually helped on here, but lately there has been a > lot of barking > going on and it just doesn't seem like a Q&A list > anymore. Just my 2 > cents. > > Donavon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Bound > [mailto:simon.bound@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:19 AM > To: [ExchangeList] > Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Newbie using > Exchange[Scanned] > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > John - I have seen your responses to these type of > queries before and in > some cases i.e stopping relaying, disclaimers etc > are inclined to take > your view. However, this is an Internet forum where > ideally users can > come for information and "we" should be pointing > them in the right > direction even if it is only "read the forums and > archives". We can > however objectively put our point over rather than > the SHOUTS that I > recently see going on here. Yes you are right > companies don't realise > what's going on behind the send button - that's why > they employ the > likes of you and me and the poor sod who has to > fight his way through > Exchange with no training offered or ever likely to > be (mainly due to > the costs of the courses - and I know we could talk > ages about THAT > issue) . All I'm saying is take a step back 'cos > people come to the > forum for help and barking at them that they have no > business using it > helps no one. (Ok it gets'; if off your chest.....) > > Simon > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) > [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:31 PM > To: [ExchangeList] > Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Newbie using > Exchange[Scanned] > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > If you want to play e-mail admin, you have to learn > the ropes. > > There is no way any one can do justice by explaining > briefly how e-mail > and SMPT works. > > I am sorry, I IMHO, if you are not experienced with > an e-mail server and > SMTP, you have no business using it. > > People/companies like you that want their own mail > server but have no > clue of all the work that goes on behind "Send Now" > button make my job > and those of others that much harder, what with > misconfigurations, bad > records, open relays, poor policies and so forth. > > > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wayne James [mailto:wljames@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:40 PM > > To: [ExchangeList] > > Subject: [exchangelist] Newbie using Exchange > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/ > > > > Can anyone using a quick brief scenario explain to > me what is envolved > > > with getting an exchange server to talk to the > outside world. 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