I think that one big thing that everyone is missing in this discussion is this: "I have a customer that stores ALL of their emails on line- The store is now 82 GB." HOW MANY e-mails/what kind of attachments are important enough for them to have 82 GIGS of the stuff? That's a normal person's hard drive size, in JUST emails? Enjoy the day, Steve Frechette Network Administrator CCI _____ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maglinger, Paul Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:30 AM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Deleting attachments Why? Because if you come down to it most human beings are pack-rats. Too darn lazy to clean out mail that they will never ever need. How many cluttered garages and basements are in homes; and if you want to mention business, filing cabinets and storage rooms are in your building? How much of that mail is of Aunt June and Uncle Joe with bmps (no... not jpgs) of their vacation to Hot Springs, Arkansas and little Billy playing a tree in the grade school spring musical? How about the nice big mpgs showing the dog smoking a cigarette behind the garage or let's not forget the "adult educational videos"! Nope, I don't buy the "business reason". If we were still using paper for correspondence, what would you do when the file cabinet got full? Either buy a bigger cabinet or clean the darn thing out. Use FTP for large files, use email for correspondence *whew* (Rant over) _____ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gabriel E. Rincon Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 17:59 To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Deleting attachments Ditto I have a customer that stores ALL of their emails on line- The store is now 82 GB. They love it - they can get their emils/attachments whenever and where ever they are. Gabriel Rincon _____ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Boza Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:14 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Deleting attachments At the risk of repeating myself (see //www.freelists.org/archives/exchangelist/09-2006/msg00037.html ), why as email admins are people always locked into the idea of keeping mailbox size below user requirements? I know many think this is sacrilege, but technologists always seem to want to determine the 'best' way for the system to work, and then apply the rules and requirements to the user community. I maintain that we'd look an awfully lot smarter, and be a whole lot more popular, if instead we looked at the way the business users use and/or want to use the technology - in this case (from their perspective) "Outlook" and then design the system to meet their usage patterns. Users like to keep email. Users like to keep email with attachments. It's data that can be backed up, protected, archived and indexed, searched, and even restored in the event of emergency. Searchable in the event of a legal discovery requirement. With OWA it is accessible from just about anywhere. Ditto with mobile devices. So why not design the storage and/or centralized archiving (in deference to Jason, as he correctly pointed out) to meet the way the users want and need to use the service? Just asking - maybe I'm feeling a bit testy this afternoon. Rick From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Engle Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:40 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Deleting attachments I don't know of a program that will do what you want, but there is a program that will compress your attachments. Check out Max Compression from C2C. http://www.c2c.com/site/products/max_overview.asp Jeff. On 9/13/06, Taylor, George <GTaylor@xxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.msexchange.org -------------------------------------------------------Kind of on the same line of the PST thread. We, as I'm sure many of you out there do, struggle with the administrators, dept managers, doctors and such getting them to adhere to our mailbox policies. We actually do have a corporate wide policy limiting the size of your mailbox and it does state that if you hit that limit we no longer allow you to send email. Turned that on a couple years ago and it took my director about 20 minutes to run in my office and say "TURN IT OFF NOW!!!" So, with that said, we're looking at something a little more "pleasing" to them folks. We're thinking about deleting any attachments that are over a certain age, but leaving the email itself. I've basically been told I'd be turned into a eunuch if I deleted any doctor's email, but I may be able to get deleting just the attachments to fly. Any ideas on a 3rd party tool that could do this? Let's say something like strip the attachment from any email that is older than 180 days... Thanks, George Taylor Systems Programmer Regional Health Inc. ***Note: The information contained in this message, including any attachments, may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. 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