[ExchangeList] Re: Deleting attachments
- From: "Taylor, George" <GTaylor@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:55:00 -0600
[rant on]
eed to maintain a business practicle system for the user. However, this
is where I'm at right now, the reqs for CommonStore are sitting on a
VP's desk and slowly sliding towards the trash can, him having a 6.8gig
mailbox himself cannot understand why on earth we need an email
archiving solution. His boss, the chief of Medical Staff, has a >12gig
mailbox and just can't understand why we would ever spend money on space
for storing email. I'm running out of space and horsepower to properly
provide them with Exchange services. I'm literaly stealing spinning
disk from other systems to provide them with storage so they can keep
every single piece of email they ever get. I actually have users that
have over 20,000 unread emails in thier mailbox, instead of hitting the
delete key they simply skip over the stuff they don't want and leave it
there, thier fricking doctors, you can't change the mind set.
On the other side, if Exchange is down for any amount of time at all I
get ripped a new one, but how long does it take you to restore a 400 -
500gig mailbox store?????? Right now I have 1,500+gig in mailbox
stores, read that 1.5TB of SPACE for nothing but email, and that is not
any type of journaled/archived solution, this is simply emails sitting
in thier damn mailboxes. Being the bonehead fricking itiots that they
are they have created an unmanagable system. time to move on......
[rant off]
George Taylor
Systems Programmer
Regional Health Inc.
Yes, you read right, 1.5TB of email, luckily I'm damn good and my
systems never crash......
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From: Rick Boza [mailto:rickb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:14 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Deleting attachments
At the risk of repeating myself (see
//www.freelists.org/archives/exchangelist/09-2006/msg00037.html ),
why as email admins are people always locked into the idea of keeping
mailbox size below user requirements?
I know many think this is sacrilege, but technologists always seem to
want to determine the 'best' way for the system to work, and then apply
the rules and requirements to the user community. I maintain that we'd
look an awfully lot smarter, and be a whole lot more popular, if instead
we looked at the way the business users use and/or want to use the
technology - in this case (from their perspective) "Outlook" and then
design the system to meet their usage patterns.
Users like to keep email.
Users like to keep email with attachments.
It's data that can be backed up, protected, archived and indexed,
searched, and even restored in the event of emergency.
Searchable in the event of a legal discovery requirement.
With OWA it is accessible from just about anywhere. Ditto with mobile
devices.
So why not design the storage and/or centralized archiving (in deference
to Jason, as he correctly pointed out) to meet the way the users want
and need to use the service?
Just asking - maybe I'm feeling a bit testy this afternoon.
Rick
From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Engle
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:40 PM
To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: Deleting attachments
I don't know of a program that will do what you want, but there is a
program that will compress your attachments. Check out Max Compression
from C2C.
http://www.c2c.com/site/products/max_overview.asp
Jeff.
On 9/13/06, Taylor, George <GTaylor@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.msexchange.org
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same line of the PST thread. We, as I'm sure many of you
out there do, struggle with the administrators, dept managers, doctors
and such getting them to adhere to our mailbox policies. We actually do
have a corporate wide policy limiting the size of your mailbox and it
does state that if you hit that limit we no longer allow you to send
email. Turned that on a couple years ago and it took my director about
20 minutes to run in my office and say "TURN IT OFF NOW!!!"
So, with that said, we're looking at something a little more "pleasing"
to them folks. We're thinking about deleting any attachments that are
over a certain age, but leaving the email itself. I've basically been
told I'd be turned into a eunuch if I deleted any doctor's email, but I
may be able to get deleting just the attachments to fly.
Any ideas on a 3rd party tool that could do this? Let's say something
like strip the attachment from any email that is older than 180 days...
Thanks,
George Taylor
Systems Programmer
Regional Health Inc.
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