[duxuser] Re: upgrade to 10.5
- From: "Oggie Jones" <oggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 13:19:51 +0100
Hi Anna
The best way to deal with excel files is as follows:
The other application that is extensively used in education
is Microsoft Excel where the whole file is a spreadsheet.
Again there has to be an intervention in Word to create a
file suitable for Duxbury.
Follow these steps
· Open Excel and the file that you need
· Alt + F
· A for save as
· File type and come down the list and select Text
(Tab delimited) (*.txt)
· Save
· Open up that Text file in Word, it will appear as
columns of data with a tab separating them.
· Ctrl + A to select all of the file
· Alt + A to open the Table menu
· V to Convert
· Select Text to Table
· Word hopefully will detect the number of columns and
select the tab character to separate text.
· OK
· This will now be a file made up of a table.
· Give the whole thing a title and then Alt + F, A and
save as a doc file.
· Bring into Duxbury
Note though you can have a saved file open in Both Word and
Duxbury at the same time you are unable to this with Excel
so as soon as you have done the save as a text file you will
have to close down the file in Excel. So long as you have
it save in the Excel format ignore all the other warnings
about closing without saving etc..
Hope that this help you
Oggie Jones
Techno-Vision Systems, Northampton, England
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Anna K
Byrne
Sent: 08 September 2004 13:09
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: upgrade to 10.5
Will 10.5 deal with spread sheets? My 10.4 consistently
crashed when I
tried to convert from .xls files.
At 07:01 AM 9/8/2004, you wrote:
>Hi Rick,
>
>There's a lot to answer, but I'll do my best.
>
>My own trick for the icons is to rename the original DBT
>10.4 icon, by right clicking on the desktop Icon, and
>selecting Rename. I then call it something like "DBT Old".
>When you then install 10.5 (into a separate folder) it will
>create a new icon. You can then rename this to say, "DBT
>New".
>
>Your Templates for 10.4 may well be still there, since
>Add/Remove programs does not actually delete the c:\duxbury
>folder.
>
>As regards embosser setup parameters, I more than suspect
>that we'll have to do some fine tuning with many of the
>embossers in the list. The general parameters have been
>acquired from various sources such as manufacturer's
>manuals, and are their theoretical maximums and minimums.
>
>I don't believe you should have a problem opening 10.5
files
>in 10.4. I certainly didn't find any problems myself
during
>the beta cycle.
>
>Failure to open Word files is a worry, though we will need
>more specific information such as the Version of Word
>actually in use, plus the version of Word that it's files
>are saved as. You can for example, set up Word 2003 to
save
>it's files by default in an older format.
>
>As regards saving embosser information with 10.5 files, I
>hope in the longer term, when you get to know it, you will
>appreciate that if files get moved from one system to
>another, the document parameters are retained. In 10.4 or
>earlier, if say your Global Embosser setup was for 40 cells
>and 27 lines, and I opened one of your files where my
>settings were say 42 and 28, the document would be
>reformatted. You can still override any settings though.
>
>And finally tables. Hands up. It didn't make it in this
>version. It's another one of these highly desired features
>which just simply could not be implemented in the
timeframe.
>There have been many sweeping changes in 10.5, and
>personally speaking, I'd like to see things settle down
>while the remaining gremlins are exorcised.
>
>George Bell.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick
>Boggess
> > Sent: 08 September 2004 02:37
> > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxuser] Re: upgrade to 10.5
> >
> > Late Friday afternoon, I downloaded and installed 10.5.
I
>
> > wasn't thinking and overwrote my version 10.4. Today I
> > decided to uninstall 10.5, reinstall, 10.4 and reinstall
>10.5
> > in a separate directory. I'm not sure everything
>uninstalled
> > since my templates from 10.4 were still intact after the
> > uninstall/reinstall. I used add/remove programs in
>Windows 98.
> >
> > First, I need to set up a startup icon for one of the
> > programs in the start menu. As I recall, there wre
>several
> > templates to chose from in 10.5, but they do not seem to
>be
> > there now. Second, I have tried to open several word
>files
> > and cannot get them to open in 10.5. Should I once
again
> > uninstall everything and try to reinstall. By the way,
I
> > have activated 10.5 since I just purchased this version
of
>
> > 10.4 about two months ago.
> >
> > I typed a short document in Duxbury 10.5 this afternoon
in
>
> > the office so I could print it on the network printer.
>The
> > printing went fine on the thomas. However, the 27 lines
> > default for the 11in paper was too much for the page. I
> > noticed that if I changed to the 12inch paper the
default
> > number of lines was 30, which I suspect is too many. I
> > reduced the number to 25 with a 1 line tope margin for
my
>11
> > inch paper and things worked fine.
> >
> > Will I have problems if I deactivate and reactivate the
> > software if I need to reinstall?
> >
> > We have another licensed version 10.4 on another
computer
>in
> > our office.
> > I'm assuming that if I create a document in 10.5 the
> > assistant will not be able to load and print the
document
>in 10.4.
> >
> > One observation I've made is that, while I like the idea
>that
> > one can setup several embossers, I'm not sure I like the
>fact
> > that the embosser information stays with the file. In
> > addition, do I understand that one must set up embossers
>for
> > each template? It would sure be nice if one could
>transfer
> > those settings from template to template.
> >
> > I was very disappointed to discover that the ability to
do
>
> > columns and tables, which MegaDots does very well, has
not
>
> > been incorporated.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Rick Boggess
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve
>Dresser
> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:31 AM
> > To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [duxuser] Re: upgrade to 10.5
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > As George said, Version 10.5 doesn't have to overwrite
>your
> > previous version. When you're installing 10.5, just
pick
>a
> > different folder than the one it defaults to. If the
>folder
> > doesn't yet exist, the installer will create it. That's
> > exactly what I did because, like you, I wasn't quite
sure
>I
> > wanted to overwrite the old version, and it worked
>perfectly.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Monday 9/6/04 11:10 Dave Durber wrote:
> >
> > >Given the fact there are and, will continue to be
>teething problems
> > >with DBT 10.5, I am hoping that we will be able to have
>both
> > versions
> > >of the software on our computers, in the same way as
JAWS
>
> > for Windows.
> > >
> > >My suggestion would be that the program folder should
be
> > called Duxbury
> > >10.5 or simply DBT 10.5.
> > >
> > >If DBT 10.5 is allowed to overwrite or update DBT 10.4,
>then it will
> > >prevent individuals like myself from producing our
>braille
> > output with
> > >a version of DBT that does what we want it to do.
> > >
> > >This means, for example, if I import a file from DBT
10.4
>into DBT
> > >10.5 that has a custom-saved template and I create that
> > template in DBT
> > >10.5 and, for example, I have problems embossing that
>file
> > within DBT
> > >10.5, I should be able to load that file back into DBT
>10.4
> > and emboss
> > >the file in a way that I know that the file will be
>embossed
> > correctly.
> > >
> > >This will not be possible if DBT 10.5 is allowed to
> > overwrite or update
> > >the default folder for DBT 10.4, which has, up to now,
>been called
> > >"Duxbury".
> > >
> > >This problem should be given the most urgent attention.
> > >
> > >Sincerely:
> > >
> > >Dave Durber
> > >
> > >On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 07:40:51 +0100, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi Ken,
> > > >
> > > >You do NOT need to remove DBT 10.4 first. The
> > installation program
> > > >will then automatically find your License file a
>proceed
> > accordingly.
> > > >
> > > >George Bell.
> > > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > >
> > > >From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ken
>Stewart
> > > >Sent: 06 September 2004 04:00
> > > >To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [duxuser] Re: upgrade to 10.5
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >When upgrading from 10.4 to 10.5, we do need to
>uninstall
> > > >10.4 don't we or will the install program take care
of
>that?
> > > >Thanks
> > > >Ken Stewart
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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