[duxuser] Re: upgrade to 10.5
- From: Dave Durber <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:38:28 -0400
Hello Listers:
Now you see why I made the suggestion to have DBT 10.5 be installed to
a different folder instead of "Duxbury". Because DBT 10.5 is so
different from DBT 10.4 in its design and additional functions, it
would be logical to install it to a folder such as "Duxbury 10.5" or
"DBT 10.5". In doing this by default, these kinds of situations would
not happen and therefore they would be avoided. The other advantage
to doing this would be that the technical support team at Duxbury and
their dealers around the world would not have to waste their time and
valuable and limited company resources explaining how to restore DBT
10.4.
Here you have an example of a person who over wrote their 10.4 version
of DBT and is now screwed as to how to restore their 10.4 version of
DBT back to how it was before they over wrote it with DBT 10.5.
In this instance, this individual seems to have the basic knowledge as
to how to remove the software from their computer. But,
unfortunately, they do not seem to know the whole story on how to do
it completely. I think that you will agree, it is a classic case of
knowing half the procedure of doing something can be more dangerous
than not knowing the procedure at all.
Personally speaking, when this happens, to quote an old expression "it
is like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. Oh! to
quote another expression "one ounce of prevention, is better than a
ton of cure".
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:37:16 -0500, you wrote:
>Late Friday afternoon, I downloaded and installed 10.5. I wasn't thinking
>and overwrote my version 10.4. Today I decided to uninstall 10.5,
>reinstall, 10.4 and reinstall 10.5 in a separate directory. I'm not sure
>everything uninstalled since my templates from 10.4 were still intact after
>the uninstall/reinstall. I used add/remove programs in Windows 98.
>
>First, I need to set up a startup icon for one of the programs in the start
>menu. As I recall, there wre several templates to chose from in 10.5, but
>they do not seem to be there now. Second, I have tried to open several word
>files and cannot get them to open in 10.5. Should I once again uninstall
>everything and try to reinstall. By the way, I have activated 10.5 since I
>just purchased this version of 10.4 about two months ago.
>
>I typed a short document in Duxbury 10.5 this afternoon in the office so I
>could print it on the network printer. The printing went fine on the
>thomas. However, the 27 lines default for the 11in paper was too much for
>the page. I noticed that if I changed to the 12inch paper the default
>number of lines was 30, which I suspect is too many. I reduced the number
>to 25 with a 1 line tope margin for my 11 inch paper and things worked fine.
>
>Will I have problems if I deactivate and reactivate the software if I need
>to reinstall?
>
>We have another licensed version 10.4 on another computer in our office.
>I'm assuming that if I create a document in 10.5 the assistant will not be
>able to load and print the document in 10.4.
>
>One observation I've made is that, while I like the idea that one can setup
>several embossers, I'm not sure I like the fact that the embosser
>information stays with the file. In addition, do I understand that one must
>set up embossers for each template? It would sure be nice if one could
>transfer those settings from template to template.
>
>I was very disappointed to discover that the ability to do columns and
>tables, which MegaDots does very well, has not been incorporated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Rick Boggess
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Steve Dresser
>Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:31 AM
>To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [duxuser] Re: upgrade to 10.5
>
>Dave,
>
>As George said, Version 10.5 doesn't have to overwrite your previous
>version. When you're installing 10.5, just pick a different folder than the
>one it defaults to. If the folder doesn't yet exist, the installer will
>create it. That's exactly what I did because, like you, I wasn't quite sure
>I wanted to overwrite the old version, and it worked perfectly.
>
>Steve
>
>On Monday 9/6/04 11:10 Dave Durber wrote:
>
>>Given the fact there are and, will continue to be teething problems
>>with DBT 10.5, I am hoping that we will be able to have both versions
>>of the software on our computers, in the same way as JAWS for Windows.
>>
>>My suggestion would be that the program folder should be called Duxbury
>>10.5 or simply DBT 10.5.
>>
>>If DBT 10.5 is allowed to overwrite or update DBT 10.4, then it will
>>prevent individuals like myself from producing our braille output with
>>a version of DBT that does what we want it to do.
>>
>>This means, for example, if I import a file from DBT 10.4 into DBT
>>10.5 that has a custom-saved template and I create that template in DBT
>>10.5 and, for example, I have problems embossing that file within DBT
>>10.5, I should be able to load that file back into DBT 10.4 and emboss
>>the file in a way that I know that the file will be embossed correctly.
>>
>>This will not be possible if DBT 10.5 is allowed to overwrite or update
>>the default folder for DBT 10.4, which has, up to now, been called
>>"Duxbury".
>>
>>This problem should be given the most urgent attention.
>>
>>Sincerely:
>>
>>Dave Durber
>>
>>On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 07:40:51 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Ken,
>> >
>> >You do NOT need to remove DBT 10.4 first. The installation program
>> >will then automatically find your License file a proceed accordingly.
>> >
>> >George Bell.
>> >
>> >________________________________
>> >
>> >From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Stewart
>> >Sent: 06 September 2004 04:00
>> >To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [duxuser] Re: upgrade to 10.5
>> >
>> >
>> >When upgrading from 10.4 to 10.5, we do need to uninstall
>> >10.4 don't we or will the install program take care of that?
>> >Thanks
>> >Ken Stewart
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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