[duxuser] Re: FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails
- From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:25:06 -0500
Steve, I read in grade 2 on my braille display all the time. This is
information that is in print on the screen that speaks fine yet jaws can
translate this into grade 2 braille. If it can translate, how hard would it
be do to the reverse?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Dresser" <s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:31 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails
Peter,
True, Blazie devices had a reverse translator, but it wasn't very
good. Second, the screen reading capabilities of the Blazie devices were
nowhere nearly as sophisticated as today's screen readers. For example,
see what happens if you turn your BNS loose on a Web page (assuming you can
even figure out how to make it read one).
Although K1000 has some screen reading functions, it is not a screen
reader. It's reverse translator is fairly primitive, and is there only as
a quick and dirty method of back-translating braille.
I don't work for Freedom Scientific (or any other screen reader company,
for that matter), but as someone who worked as a programmer for nearly 30
years, I can tell you that building a reverse translator into a screen
reader is an extremely low priority because it would take more resources
than any screen reader company has, or is likely to have given the very
limited market. Ask yourself if you'd be willing to pay double or triple
the price of your favorite screen reader, and you'll have a better idea why
it hasn't happened yet, and probably never will.
Steve
On Thursday 3/18/04 00:21 Peter Donahue wrote:
>Hello Steve and listers,
>
> The Blazie folks cracked that nut years ago with their line of superb
>Braille-aware devices. Why this technology has yet to be included in
screen
>readers is beyond me. However this feature is available in the K1000 so
>there's hope for this matter.
>
>Peter Donahue
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Dresser" <s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:32 PM
>Subject: [duxuser] Re: FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails
>
>
>Alan,
>
>I can't comment on the appearance of braille dots in an Email message, but
>I can tell you that the only way to read braille as it is rendered by
>translation software is to use a braille display. For a screen reader to
>render braille into intelligible speech, you would have to send the
>material through a reverse translator to turn it back into text.
>
>Steve
>
>On Wednesday 3/17/04 20:59 Blackburn, Alan wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >G'day all,
> >I have a technical question which I intend to post across several lists,
> >so my apologies in advance to those of you who have to put up with
> >multi-copies.
> >
> >Is there an easy way to "embed" Braille into an e-mail so it shows as
dots
> >on the received e-mail (other than sending it as an attachment)? If there
> >is it would enable us to avoid the "dot 3, dot 4-5-6-" "en-in-ing-"
> >gibberish we resort to to communicate Braille questions. I did a little
> >test using ascii code, and also copy/paste from a .dxb (Duxbury) file
> >(also ascii) which seemed to work as long as the receiving computer had a
> >Braille font installed. I don't know how well it would work with screen
> >readers/Jaws etc.
> >
> >Any ideas?
> >Alan.
> >
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