[duxuser] Re: FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails

  • From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:08:58 -0600

Hello David and listers,

    I've made that suggestion to Freedomscientific on a number of occasions
to include that capability in to Jaws, but so far they've fallen on deaf
ears.  Now we're entering the realm of the off topic so I guess we had
better take this up with the screen reader developers and not Duxbury as
this is not just a Duxbury issue.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:08 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails


it would be cool if screen readers would recognize and back translate grade
2 on the fly.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blackburn, Alan" <Alan.Blackburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:05 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails


Don't you wish that just sometimes, something could be easy??!!
Alan.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Poehlman [mailto:poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2004 2:01 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails

oh, It reads fine but speaks gibberish.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blackburn, Alan" <Alan.Blackburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:38 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails


Wow George It Worked!

At least on my computer anyway!

,n[1 :at d y get f ?8

Alan.



-----Original Message-----
From: George Bell [mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2004 1:18 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails



Hi Alan,



You have raised a very interesting question, and indeed one I have been
hesitating to ask for some time now.



In theory, any DBT user should have the Braille and Simbraille fonts
installed by default.  However in some cases, it may be that they need
to be manually installed from the c:\duxbury folder.



However to view them correctly, one needs to send HTML messages.



That said, many list members have their systems set to only be able to
view test only messages, so any formatting and fonts would not be seen
properly.



I would absolutely LOVE to be able to send you all messages with
examples from the new Help files I am working on, but unless your
systems have the appropriate fonts installed, and such like, they may
appear a complete mess outside of DBT itself.



O.K.  I will bight the proverbial bullet.  See what the Print Versus
Braille topic looks like in this message.  All I have done is copy and
paste from DBT 10.5's Help screen.



George Bell.






Print v Braille.


Codes used:  [ifbrl] and/or [ifprt]

There are often cases where it is necessary to change the wording
between print and braille documents.

For example, print text might say:

This book is available in braille.

Where the braille text should say:-

This book is available in print.


Usage in DBT:


This book is available in [ifprt]braille. [ifbrl]print.

NOTE:  If you turn Coded View off in DBT, your screen will show:-

This book is available in braille.


But produces in Braille:


,? book is availa# 9 brl4pr9t4







  _____

From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Blackburn, Alan
Sent: 18 March 2004 01:59
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] FW: embedding brl dots in e-mails







G'day all,

I have a technical question which I intend to post across several lists,
so my apologies in advance to those of you who have to put up with
multi-copies.



Is there an easy way to "embed" Braille into an e-mail so it shows as
dots on the received e-mail (other than sending it as an attachment)? If
there is it would enable us to avoid the "dot 3, dot 4-5-6-"
"en-in-ing-" gibberish we resort to to communicate Braille questions. I
did a little test using ascii code, and also copy/paste from a .dxb
(Duxbury) file (also ascii) which seemed to work as long as the
receiving computer had a Braille font installed. I don't know how well
it would work with screen readers/Jaws etc.



Any ideas?

Alan.

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