[ddots-l] Re: bcr2000 vs bcf2000
- From: Blake Hardin <blakehardin5487@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:07:55 -0800
Ahh yeah man makes since. So would you still consider the xs to be the
most accessible of the workstations? Like if i got the edditors? Ors
was the motif es easyer to use?
On 1/18/10, Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Because I'm tired of memorizing screens. I have too much going on to spend
> the hours and hours that it takes to commit a board like the Motif to
> memory. Plus, if you don't use it constantly, you start to forget details.
> After accidentally erasing several projects, having the Motif wipe out one
> of my flashdisks and kill a bunch of data, and struggling for a few days
> trying to reset all of the Utility mode and sequencer setup screens to work
> with Sonar and mLAN again after one of those crashes, I decided that I was
> tired of pouring time down that hole. It might be fine to memorize screens
> enough to play it live, or to do some small sequencing on it, but I wanted
> it to be fully integrated with Sonar as a controller, control surface, audio
> and MIDI interface, and tone generator. The docs say that it can do that,
> but actually making it happen is like chasing a carrot. Mostly because mLAN
> is such a pain to get and keep working with Sonar. Yamaha really isn't
> interested in making the Motif work well with any DAW besides Cubase, so it
> always felt like my workarounds were just fighting nature. I'd figure out
> some trick to make the Motif work in a certain way, only to find a bug,
> report it, and be told that it wasn't meant to be used that way. Of course
> not. It was supposed to be used with Cubase, which we can't use. Its
> possible to make it work, with lots and lots of effort, but I don't think
> that the effort is worth it anymore.
>
> Besides any blindness stuff, or any Yamaha compatibility stuff, I'm also
> tired of having to track in external sound modules of any type. If it won't
> run as a softsynth, I don't run it. I don't have time or patience for
> modules anymore. Too slow to work with, setting up sysex bulk dumps and
> restores, matching levels, tracking in external sounds at super slow
> real-time speed. Too much time to memorize everything, instead of having
> access, if even slower access, on the computer. So easy for settings to get
> messed up, or to have external gear not properly recall its setup when you
> load a Sonar project.
>
> I play a keyboard, but I don't record with one anymore. The computer isn't
> as fast, and the quality isn't as high in all areas, but I don't care. If I
> can have most of the quality in a fraction of the time, then that's all I
> need.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Blake Hardin
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 1:23 AM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: bcr2000 vs bcf2000
>
> hey bryan? may i ask why you choose to venture away from the motif world of
> keyboards?
>
> On 1/17/10, Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> The editor isn't free. You buy it from John Melas in Greece. You can
>> google to get his web site, or search on www.moaccess.info. It costs
>> about 140 Euros.
>>
>> The scripts are free. You'll need to get them from Gordon Kent.
>>
>> If the scripts don't work with your editor, then you have the wrong
>> editor.
>> E-mail John and ask him for the older version that worked with screen
>> readers.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bolo Feliciano
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:05 PM
>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: bcr2000 vs bcf2000
>>
>> Hi,
>> How would I know if I got the old version of the editor? and when you
>> say don't use the motif anymore, should I sell it? I'm a little
>> confused with what you said.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bolo Feliciano
>>
>> DasRight! Productions
>>
>> email:bolohotlikefire@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Tel: 340 227 1566
>>
>> "Seeing the World through my Heart"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:46:28 -0500
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: bcr2000 vs bcf2000
>>>
>>> You can get the scripts from Gordon. I wrote them, but don't do
>>> anything with the Motif anymore. Also, you need the old version of
>>> the editor. The new one changed the interface completely, and doesn't
>>> work with Jaws.
>>>
>>> I persuaded Yamaha to give the author of the editor a free Motif XS
>>> so that he'd make it work for us, and so the changes in the new
>>> version are very upsetting to me. Still, what can I do?
>>>
>>> Bryan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bolo Feliciano
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:55 PM
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: bcr2000 vs bcf2000
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info, whether is a paid or a freeby download is quite
>>> alright by me as long as it makes the motif editor accessible.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bolo Feliciano
>>>
>>> DasRight! Productions
>>>
>>> email:bolohotlikefire@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Tel: 340 227 1566
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: neville@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: bcr2000 vs bcf2000
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:59:49 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Welcome to the list what's up my friend. I don't have a motif, so I
>>> can't help with that but there are many on this list who do and
>>> should be able to send it to you. I don't know if its free or if you have
>>> to pay for it.
>>> I'm sure someone on this list should have that information as well.
>>> Its good to know that you are posting. Be well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> May the peace of God which passes all understanding gard your heart
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>>>
>>> God bless you!
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>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bolo Feliciano
>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:07 AM
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: bcr2000 vs bcf2000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi People,
>>> I'm a soca and calypso producer hailing all the way from the Virgin
>>> Islands. I've been onthe the list for just a qquick minute now, but
>>> this is my first entry. I was just wondering if I can also possiblely
>>> get a copy of the jaws scripts for the motif editer.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Bolo Feliciano
>>>
>>> DasRight! Productions
>>>
>>> email:bolohotlikefire@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Tel: 340 227 1566
>>>
>>> "Seeing the World through my Heart"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: fitzyyy@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: bcr2000 vs bcf2000
>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:15:41 -0500
>>>
>>> hi Gordon
>>>
>>> any chance you could email me the jaws scripts for the motif editers
>>> off list?
>>>
>>> the email is
>>>
>>> Fitzyyy@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> frank. oh and I think some one else wanted them, bbut if you get them
>>> to me I'll get them to him. thanks again.
>>>
>>> frank
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Gordon Kent <mailto:dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:23 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: bcr2000 vs bcf2000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I have the bcf2000, which has the motorized faders while the bcr has
>>> only knobs. I've had good luck with my bcf2000 and you certainly
>>> can't beat the price.
>>>
>>> Gord
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Frank Morekwa <mailto:frank.morekwa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:27 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] bcr2000 vs bcf2000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hi guys
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i am planning to get my self a midi controler surface and some one
>>> recomended that i should get bcr2000 or bcf2000 so i'm not sure about
>>> their differences and which one i can get with some better functions
>>> and user friendly, any advice?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
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