Thanks for the info Tim, will have to give your app a try with the universal
pro, as I've yet to try it. Last time I did it was with the BCF2000, but not
extensively.
On the OSc note, I asked Can the same thing, if we could write an XML file that
would give us access to other none RME devices, still waiting to hear back from
him. I would also love to see that be the case, as the demo I heard sounds like
this would be a great tool.
Regards, DJX
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Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:18 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Surface controllers that work well with Sonar and
Samplitude
Hi,
Just to add to this, the amount of access possible is determined by the control
surface protocol being used. If you're comparing the Mackie Control
Universal/Pro to the BCF2000/XTouch in Sonar/Samplitude, then you'll almost
certainly configure the units to use the Mackie Control protocol. This means
that the information being made available will be the same, regardless of the
specific hardware being used. Any differences will be down to whether the
physical device offers a complete set of buttons, etc. in order to trigger the
maximum number of responses from the DAW. The MCU, by definition, has a full
set of buttons, V-Pots and faders to implement the Mackie Control protocol, the
BCF2000 has a cut-down set of controls and I've not tested an XTouch, so can't
comment.
The other vital point to realise is that, for any given protocol, the amount of
feedback to be gained from any given DAW is down to the programmer(s) who wrote
the protocol driver for that DAW. For example, Sonar's Mackie Control protocol
implementation is very good indeed and sends lots of text data to the display
on a Mackie-compliant device (even if that device doesn't have a physical
screen, as with the BCF2000). This means that we get a lot of feedback with
Sonar. However, Reaper's default Mackie protocol driver is pathetic and we get
almost nothing of value, despite the fact that we're using the same hardware
and protocol as in Sonar.
OSC is a completely different protocol and is not available for the Mackie
units (at least to my knowledge - I'd love to be wrong) and I'm not sure if
Can's OSC client can take advantage of user-generated XML device definitions,
or whether it's currently limited to the RME units. I'd really like some
clarification on that point - I'm a big fan of this application and, if it's
generic, it's even more exciting.
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of DJX
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:44 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Surface controllers that work well with Sonar and
Samplitude
Mike, that's being explored right now, no definite answer yet on which would
provide better accessibility.
The question is if anyone has tried either of these units with Tim's surface
reader, if they even work under that program.
Just so we cover all corners and all areas lol.
But as of now, nobody (at least on this list) has said, (or at least I
certainly haven't), that the Behringer would provide more accessibility than
the Mackie, or that the Mackie would provide more than the Behringer. As we all
know, options are wonderful things, and thus I'm exploring these now, as I'd
personally like to know, and I'm sure some of my clients could benefit from the
info as well ;)
Once I find anything out I'll let you guys know.
Regards, DJX
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Mike Ciarciello
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:35 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Surface controllers that work well with Sonar and
Samplitude
Hey DGX, it's Mike let me get this straight so if I want more accessibility
features I should go with the Behringer instead of having my mackie
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On May 11, 2017, at 10:19 AM, DJX <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE!
s under the Mac
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On May 10, 2017, at 2:49 AM, James Malone <malone_j@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey Phil, I just checked out this demo. My ears are buzzing. Does
