Thanks Phil for the link. Everything works now. And Mike, like I said, ct 8 update doesn't work, so you can't download ct 8.3.13 with ct web update. :) If I run ct web update from ct8, it says I have latest version ct7. haha _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1