[cryptome] Re: Mobile Phone Security

  • From: Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:47:38 +0100

now the idea of invoking a variant of Schroedingers cat seems..interesting.
I wonder how that would work in practice since according to the theory.
once the "cat" is in the "box" there is no way to know if it's "alive"
or "dead" (but then if the "cat" starts to get excitable your gong to
hear it) or is the cat in a total vacuum thus preventing any sound from
On 10/06/2014 12:55, doug wrote:
> Maybe we should put our mobile phones into the microwave and just burn
> them...see url:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/06/how_vodafone_helps_spooks/
> Funnily enough, there was a tv programme called "The Wire" which came
> out a few years ago. It was a fictional piece based on reality.  It
> ran to 5 series.  It was all about the struggle between the police in
> Baltimore and the drug gangs in "The Projects". There is a section of
> it devoted to the communications wars between the two and how it
> developed, and how limitations of technology at the time and
> limitations of the law at the time, led to "holes" through which both
> sides could continue to develop their communications strategy.  From
> the use of pagers, to purchasing mobile phones en masse and then using
> them only once before throwing them away, burners they called them.
> All pure fiction of course, the police and security services never
> "turn a blind eye to the law" and are always the good guys versing the
> bad guys, and would never even dream of using illegal or surreptitious
> methods to spy on the population, especially in the U.S. and the U.K.
> as we are all civilised democracies with electorally accountable
> parliaments and law enforcement and security agencies with
> establishments who believe in individual rights and liberties,
> especially for those in foreign countries, as well as having a right
> to privacy and security.
>  I never got round to testing whether my mobile phone works in the
> microwave oven, whilst it is switched off, or whether it worked or not
> in my log burning stove (whilst it is empty or cold, of course) and,
> whilst it would have been nice to see if I could destroy all the info
> on my mobile phone by switching on the microwave, I decided that there
> was not much point as it would be very expensive to replace it and I
> have no way of checking what would be left on the chip.  There are
> always limitations for the "do it yourselfer" ones kitchen and living
> room do not make the best laboratories, I have found.
> Anyways, the above url helped me to resolve my problem, as all of my
> communications, encrypted or otherwise is recorded by various
> country's security services in case they need to check out whether I
> am dangerous to the state or society.  So, burning ones phone is a
> waste of time and resources.  Ah! Well! Back to the drawing
> board...now where can I find a nice piece of encryption software and a
> way of hiding all this secret, sensitive, delicate, data I have, and
> where can I store it and how can I transmit it without leaving a
> trace...perhaps I could invent a third Shrodingers cat and use it as a
> bit of deception...
> Just a thocht.
> Dougie.
> P.S. For those of you, who have the inclination or the time, and like
> a bit of faction, or fictitious reality, watching "The Wire" is a real
> education and I personally would recommend it as I found  it
> fascinating.  One can find the dvd for around £45 at all good bookstores.


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