Re: USF4 changes!
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:52:32 +0200
ST is one of those games where any character can win if they land a 3-hit
combo (or a tick-throw loop), so it's kinda hard to draw up a tier list.
So they have to rely on information from top players to draw up matchup
lists because they're considered to be the ones with the best insight into
matchups (I don't agree). Anyway, so if a player sucks at footsies,
they'll give a different score to a matchup that someone else will, even if
they're a top player. When they retire from the scene, someone else gives
their opinions on the matchups. Western players also seem to have less
conservative matchup scores than players in US and Europe (it's still
evident in USFIV). On a Japanese tier list you'll see a lot of 8:2s and
7:3s, whereas on a Western tier list you'll see more 6:4s. There's also
the question of character tech. Old T.Hawk for example was considered
bottom tier in the west, while in Japan he was always thought to be top
tier because they knew about this command grab option selects for many
years now.
One thing that most people agree on is that the top characters in the game
are Akuma (usually banned), O.Sagat, Vega, Dhalsim and Boxer.
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hmmm. Only one of those looks vanilla.
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> BTW, why do the tier lists for SF2T still change? I mean hasn’t the game
> been around for long enough to have finalised the tier listing?
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> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 18 July 2014 10:31 AM
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> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: USF4 changes!
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> Lol @ Vanilla Sagat
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> http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2014/07/17_softservesagat02.jpg
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> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:01 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> you are corrupt
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> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 00:44:48 +0200
> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> I spent way too much time investigating that Double Dragon glitch. Tried
> it on different versions, two player mode (doesn't appear to break the
> game), and various distances.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka1xXX_wGts
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> Looks like it's memory corruption. Depending on how the memory is
> corrupted, different things can happen.
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> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> So while I was practicing Double Dragon, I discovered another glitch.
> On the last stage right before the red carpet where you fight Willy, it's
> possible to lure all the enemies to the section where the two Mr T
> look-alikes break through the wall. As long as you don't go far onto the
> carpet, the music won't change. If you beat Willy without letting the
> music change, the game freezes. I'm gonna try to record it next time.
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> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> *lol* You should go for it :)
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> I haven't checked out any speed runs for Uprising yet. I'm guessing it's
> only possible to get that time with Sayuri (sword chick, her damage output
> is kinda retarded). Yeah, I've had my fair share of complete fails in the
> game *lol* Took me forever to get to the last boss when I first played.
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> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I'd start with something simple, even like a beat-em-up like Double
> Dragon because I know a few shortcuts and glitches in that game, and I know
> I can easily beat some of the runs I've seen. Then maybe some simple
> run-and-guns and platformers like Shinobi and other stuff I'm familiar
> with. I've also always wanted to do a speed-run of Bubble Bobble because
> there are ways to manipulate the game into giving you certain items.
> Unfortunately you can only beat Bubble Bobble in 2P mode, but I think there
> are ways around that.
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> I just saw on SDA the record for Hard Corps Uprising is 36m:25. It took
> me longer than that to beat the demo lol.
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> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> One-handed Super Mario 64 is pretty damned impressive. I've seen the
> blindfolded Punch-Out. Very cool :)
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> Which games would you do speed runs for? I'd love to do one for Hard Corps
> Uprising. It's definitely doable but it would take a while to memorise all
> the stages. The system mechanics are well suited to speed runs (tackles,
> vaults, parries, etc.)
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> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I spent the last few hours watching the highlights of Awesome Games Done
> Quick 2014 on and off.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kby8cyRoDec
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> The level of skill is amazing. One handed Super Mario 64 speed run.
> Blind-folded punch out. Multiple just-frame inputs to glitch out the
> game. Makes me wanna become a speed-runner.
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