Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:24:10 +0200

Showing affection in public is a small taboo in thailand lolz You'll get
stares and people make disgusted faces...i have no idea why. I don't really
care for their thoughts there anyway :)

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> TableView has one of the highest, if not the highest divorce rate in South
> Africa.  Easy to see why - just visit their entertainment district on any
> given night.  Loose morals and low alcohol tolerance = bad combination.
>
> Sadly, it also has one of the highest rates of child abuse :\
>
> Here's a report from 2004:
> http://152.111.1.87/argief/berigte/dieburger/2004/04/28/TC/01/01.html
>
> I believe the rate has increased since then.
>
> Thailand always struck me as one of those places where people often have
> multiple partners.  You don't often see couples walking around, and if you
> do, they don't seem to be that committed too each other.  In Hong Kong on
> the other hand it seems like you're an outcast if you aren't walking around
> holding hands and being affectionate with your S/O.
>
> Bleurgh... cooties and all that.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Lolz that sounds like a plot for a Hangover movie.
>>
>> Not sure about divorce rate. But having a side chick and fucking around
>> is pretty high in thailand...even though they don't really speak about it.
>> Not too surprised though. All the "massage" facilities there...
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty sure TableView has a higher divorce rate than Thailand.
>>>
>>> In 2008 we were in Pathaya.  We walked into a Go go bar - the same kind
>>> you just described.  Basically the girls dance in a glass booth and you
>>> call their number.  Our one friend was really drunk at the time.  He walked
>>> in, sat down and started waving all his money around, and shouting the
>>> numbers of all the girls.
>>>
>>> 41!  32!  26!  18!
>>>
>>> This caused a bit of a problem because some girls who had already
>>> settled at another customer's table came running over even though their
>>> numbers weren't called.  We nearly got into a fight with some random
>>> bloke.  Eventually my friend just settled on a petite chick who wouldn't be
>>> out of place in Melty Blood.  I spent the rest of the night walking around
>>> and taking photos of random stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lolz damn.
>>>>
>>>> Well, in thailand the girls are lined up in booth or glass display.
>>>> Then you pick a number. They are price range too lolz XD
>>>> There's so many "massage" facilities everywhere. No wonder the
>>>> infidelity rate in thailand is among the highest in the world. -_- not
>>>> shining a good light on my home country here.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Interestingly enough, that's part of the theoretical app's
>>>>> capabilities :p
>>>>>
>>>>> In the words of my mate's wonderfully wise dad "The first thing I do
>>>>> when I land in a new city is look for a f*ck".
>>>>>
>>>>> To facilitate these types of requests, the masseur will be logged into
>>>>> the client app with GPS enabled (they can disable this, of course).  The
>>>>> customer logs in and requests all professionals within a 10km radius.  
>>>>> Done.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not like we can track (masseurs) like the car route for uber
>>>>>> cabs lolz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would be between the customer and the professional.  Your
>>>>>>> business makes money by either facilitating the transaction, and/or 
>>>>>>> hosting
>>>>>>> profiles.  A Yellow Pages of sorts.  Anything beyond that is out of your
>>>>>>> hands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I can see how this would work, but one of the important things
>>>>>>>> with Uber – and with how this one would work – is that the total amount
>>>>>>>> charged is known beforehand and that no cash needs to exchange hands.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This means that the ‘fragrant oils’ and whatnot need to be
>>>>>>>> understood clearly by both parties – and the costs thereof. If you are
>>>>>>>> offering a venue, or even aid in setting the people up through your 
>>>>>>>> app,
>>>>>>>> you cannot claim ignorance over what they’re actually doing. If you do 
>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>> that route, then the people using your app (and I mean the masseurs) 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> committing fraud by promising one thing (pine fresh oil) and delivering
>>>>>>>> another (happy ending). That is still a problem for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 24 February 2015 1:57 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aah... but that's where the other part of the conversation comes in
>>>>>>>> :P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two of the big problems with brothels are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1.  They are illegal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2.  The business owner has a lot of overhead that aren't directly
>>>>>>>> related to the product (eg. premises, security etc).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, we cut out the risk and overheads by providing a platform where
>>>>>>>> professionals (let's say "masseurs") can sign up.  Your app brings 
>>>>>>>> back a
>>>>>>>> list of these professionals, and you book an appointment with them.  On
>>>>>>>> their profiles, there's an indicator that says "Entertains personal
>>>>>>>> requests *nudge nudge wink wink*".  When the customer clicks on this, 
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> opens a chat session and he asks if they are willing to wear a nurse
>>>>>>>> outfits, use environmentally friendly oils etc.  The app doesn't save 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> chat session unless the professional reports it (eg. as a record of
>>>>>>>> harassment - can be exploited though).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So now, whatever the client and professional do is between them and
>>>>>>>> you don't have to worry about providing a premises to accommodate their
>>>>>>>> clearly legal arrangement.  Oh and of course you can rate the service -
>>>>>>>> just like Uber.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, regarding the credit cards.  Just do what The Grand does in
>>>>>>>> JHB.  Depending on which CC machine you use at the premises, it will
>>>>>>>> generate a different company name - but never The Grand.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I dunno how the law works here, so no idea if this would be
>>>>>>>> possible. Isn’t prostitution illegal in SA?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If people could put through the ratings anonymously, you’re back to
>>>>>>>> same problem of not being able to trust it. While it would be a great 
>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>> – especially for keeping people from stealing the prostitutes money or
>>>>>>>> failing to pay her. Who is going to register their credit card details 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> an organisation that skirts the law so closely though?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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