There are things that they really should teach people in school that they don’t. Everyone should learn basic contract law. This would stop a whole lot of people from getting screwed over because they signed something that they didn’t understand. This is especially important considering how our national credit act works. The second thing they should teach people is how to budget, including how interest works and the time value of money. Show people what they’re actually paying. Help them to understand how saving will work and how to manage on a limited budget. You can do this at a young age. It’s the practical use of maths that they need to get into people’s heads. 90% of the maths that I learned has done nothing for me (personal life, not work life). Once you actually do some vaguely advanced maths – I mean matric level stuff like Riemenn sums – you can see how it can be used, especially if you’re doing physics at the same time. For the rest, you don’t really need it. When last did anyone here need to calculate the volume of a sphere? I do understand that you need a proper maths base before you head to the advanced stuff, and I’m sure people who know a lot more about teaching than I do have thought about this, but I do wonder why school maths isn’t more practical. From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ryan Williams Sent: 17 February 2015 3:31 PM To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail I think I'd be more fond of maths if I could have applied it practically at a young age. Despite not being the greatest fan of it, if I can apply something logically and have it make sense that way, it sticks. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Meh, maths is broad enough that you can find some of it that works for you. The maths that we did for comp sci was discrete structures. It doesn’t match anything that we did in school – more logic than calculus or algebra. Google ‘strong induction’ for an idea of what it is. From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Ryan Williams Sent: 17 February 2015 3:24 PM To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail Well I'm enjoying it so far. I suppose that's the important thing. Troubleshooting = problem solving = I have a knack. I hate maths though. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: You need a knack for problem solving. It can be a lot of fun. From time to time I will review models and try to track down issues – could be lousy macros, poor maths or just bad model governance. That’s more my style than straight programming. Good luck with it all. I suppose just keep at it. From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Ryan Williams Sent: 17 February 2015 3:16 PM To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail I've always felt that I don't have a mind for programming, so I'm trying to see if I'm wrong. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Did a couple of years of comp sci at varsity. Quit when I realised it was nothing like gaming. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Ryan Williams<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> Sent: 2015-02-17 14:54 To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail In my experience, the first few lessons were simple enough to grasp. Shit gets real after that. Currently learning functions. On 17 Feb 2015 14:51, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: f I stopped somewhere at the beginning , writing my name or something. kuk is hard. ________________________________ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:49:54 +0200 Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Yar. Learning Javascript. On 17 Feb 2015 14:49, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: code academy? ________________________________ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:48:18 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> End of the month. On 17 Feb 2015 14:47, "Ashraf Barendse" <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: So no Kamimodo this week? :( On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: I'm learning how to code. On 17 Feb 2015 14:45, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: 1...2....3....4.... ________________________________ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:43:44 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Tumbooroo weedo On 17 February 2015 at 13:07, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: :( ________________________________ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:01:32 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> @paas I see you cannot use the PSN+ Guilty Gear colours on the ps3 version. Bummer. I-no's looks the best tho. On 17 Feb 2015 11:14, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: Egh i stuck running meters and meters of vinyl through a machine today. Pretty boring but at least I'm near a pc most of the time. On 17 February 2015 at 11:10, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: [cid:ii_i692juxm0_14b96cde4c77c2f7] On 17 February 2015 at 11:00, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: Are you really happy with a win.... YES ________________________________ From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:58:03 +0000 Are you really happy with a win where it was the lag that gave it to you, not your skill? Yawn. Having trouble staying awake here. From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets Sent: 17 February 2015 10:50 AM To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail winnings winning ________________________________ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:42:48 +0200 Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *lol* You mean like me winning all those matches last night? :P On 17 Feb 2015 10:39, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: [cid:image001.png@01D04AA0.930D4E90] ________________________________ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:33:07 +0200 Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> You call winning once with 16f delay bopping? The fark outta here. You'll know what real bopping is on Saturday. On 17 Feb 2015 10:30, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: wtf!!!!!!! sap didn't I bop you last nyt? ________________________________ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:29:35 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *lol* On 17 Feb 2015 10:26, "euraima tobias" <euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: Is it GB's? I knew something was up, letting him bop you like that in melty... :-? On 17 Feb 2015 10:21 AM, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: I didn't know you were expecting LB. Congrats. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: u violet my expectancy now im mad let the bopping commence ________________________________ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:56:31 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> He's not unsure, he's in denial. On 17 Feb 2015 09:55, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: > im unsure whats happening. LB's epitaph On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: they probably related to "the answer" somehow. also I would like closure on the topic of jeeva or kami this week? im unsure whats happening. ________________________________ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:31:07 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> You have to assume that they can hack basically anything since they've obtained source code to hardware firmware. These hacks go way back to 2001. Noone knows what they're capable of now. And you still have to consider the capabilities of Russia, China, Europe and Israel. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: Can dey hek my iped? On Tuesday, February 17, 2015, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: Interesting material for people who like reading about hacking and spy programs: https://securelist.com/files/2015/02/Equation_group_questions_and_answers.pdf tl;dr: The NSA has an elite hacking group nicknamed "Equation" that, among other things, has managed to create spyware that infects PC hard drive firmware and can operate undetected. ________________________________ The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. 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