Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:09:33 +0200
Yes... They tried cheats.
Thats nice.
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof 2002
> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no profit
> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
> smashed"d.^_^;)
>
> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
> >
> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is about to
> have a
> > heart-attack.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> I think I'm troubled.
> >>
> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom Claremont.
> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced subjectively... See
> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or google
> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable example.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the article
> or
> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
> >>>>
> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge Fund
> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in the quant
> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn into R500,
> >>>> if
> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for adaption
> >>>> here
> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is also the
> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
> >>>>
> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected this when
> >>>> I
> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd implement
> >>>> like,
> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have any
> >>>> statical
> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent of
> running
> >>>> a
> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is akin to
> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best variables that
> >>>> fit
> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
> >>>>
> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a data-base
> first,
> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables and the
> ANN
> >>>> is
> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide what it
> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
> >>>>
> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out, that is
> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people have used
> >>>> GA's
> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I would is
> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently, just as we
> >>>> do.
> >>>>
> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic shocks,
> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
> >>>> accordingly
> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
> necessarily
> >>>> be
> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always wait for
> >>>> some
> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
> >>>>
> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else I'd go
> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market values it at
> >>>> and
> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I had a
> basic
> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock falls
> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd be a
> >>>> billionaire by now.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> @GB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market. It seems
> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds are
> already
> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though). Was that
> >>>>> paper
> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the questions I
> had.
> >>>>> It
> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data is run on
> >>>>> live
> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from "over-fitting",
> which
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past performance
> in
> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs don't take
> >>>>> into
> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail miserably
> when
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do is to try
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be at the
> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email address.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> lol,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton myself ,
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I can see
> >>>>>>> em,
> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows this.
> >>>>>>>
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