Ragna commented on one of the DBZ HD tourney vids, saying he could easily have won the tournament as he used to play the game regularly *lol* On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~pstone/Papers/bib2html/b2hd-GECCO06-trading.html > > Forgot to mention this interesting bit of research: > http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130425/srep01684/full/srep01684.html > > tl;dr: The higher the number of searches for specific financial terms via > Google Trends, the greater the prediction of a stock market crash. > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the article or >> the pdf? I'd love to read it. >> >> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge Fund >> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in the quant >> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn into R500, if >> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for adaption here >> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is also the >> canary in the coal mine in world of finance. >> >> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected this when I >> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd implement like, >> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have any statical >> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent of running a >> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is akin to >> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best variables that fit >> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm. >> >> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a data-base first, >> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables and the ANN is >> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide what it >> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so. >> >> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out, that is >> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people have used GA's >> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I would is >> totally different, which means it would learn differently, just as we do. >> >> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic shocks, >> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust accordingly >> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't necessarily be >> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always wait for some >> kind of external economic movement to make money. >> >> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else I'd go >> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market values it at and >> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I had a basic >> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock falls >> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd be a >> billionaire by now. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> @GB >>> >>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market. It seems >>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds are already >>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though). Was that paper >>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the questions I had. It >>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data is run on live >>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from "over-fitting", which is >>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past performance in >>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs don't take into >>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail miserably when they >>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do is to try to >>> match the curve, which of course is very bad. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>> >>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be at the bottom >>>> of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email address. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets >>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>> >>>>> lol, >>>>> >>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton myself , and >>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200 >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I can see em, >>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P >>>>> >>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse < >>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is... >>>>> >>>>> Gohan is a charge character. 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