It must have been confusing in the 1920s in both Toronto and Montreal which
CPR station does the train leave from. Windsor or Viger and inToronto,
North Toronto , or Union Station now Derick corrected my impression there
was a round house at North Toronto thanks but I see another reason why the
CPR finnally went south to Union . when a train arrived or Departed at North
Toronto it had to run the engine to or from West Toronto I assume that
would be Lampton Roundhouse . such moves cost time and tie up a main line
whereas calling a locomotive from John street was much an easy short move
in comparison. Proably this was a factor in closing North Toronto plus the
year it was closed 1930 cutting costs in that year even worse than 2009.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Boles" <derekboles@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: [cpsig] North Toronto Station (was Re: Electrification (was Re: CPR
D-10 from sunset))
--- In cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Andrew Jeanes" <yahoo@...> wrote:
Wow, has this thread ever drifted away from its original intent.
Inaccurate criticism of North Toronto Station around Derek is as bad an idea
as criticizing the other railway's Turbo Train in front of Jason Shron.
As you say...
But...the 1920s iterations of trains 23 and 24 never ran to Ottawa. Nearest
they got was crossing the diamond over the Prescott sub at Bedell. Trains 33
and 34 were the direct Ottawa-Toronto overnight trains, and they ran into
Toronto Union Station.
Actually 33 and 34 had sleepers that ran from Ottawa to Smiths Falls where they were
added to or subtracted from Nos. 23 and 24 into North Toronto Station. In fact they ran all
the way to Hamilton until 1925.
There were also separate NTS-Ottawa trains from June 4, 1916 until July 1, 1916, after
North Toronto Station opened. They were afternoon trains via Belleville and were No. 37
eastbound, "The Rideau" and No. 38 westbound, "The York." They were transferred to
Union Station as of July 2, 1916.
Later on, in the pool era, Trains 23 and 24 made their reappearance as a
second overnight run between Ottawa and Toronto, going via Belleville
instead of Peterboro as did 33 and 34. By then North Toronto Station was
long closed.
All of which suggests that though North Toronto Station may have been
popular with the Rosedale and Forest Hill-dwelling business types, it was
probably not very useful for Ottawa-bound politicians.
Derek Boles
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