Re: [cpsig] Electrification (was Re: CPR D-10 from sunset)

  • From: "dave hill" <techill@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:21:25 -0500

I guess what confused me was I had two articles one 1927 the other 1930 sorry for the confusion .. it really is interesting to see pictures of Union station in1927 with cars of the era parked out front . I imagine it was the cab stand . now a question why did the station take so long to open what was happening 1920 to 1927? thats a long time . Also another curiosity would the Royal York be under construction in 1927 or did not start till later?? regards DAVID HILL
----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Boles" <derekboles@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:29 PM
Subject: [cpsig] Electrification (was Re: CPR D-10 from sunset)


--- In cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dave hill" <techill@...> wrote:

I guess North Toronto station had one thing going against it from the start
it was not big enough tom accomodate all CPRtrains out of Toronto  I have
just received amn article from Canadian Railway and Marine world Dated sept
1927. In the article re the development of Union Station it was vretty well
a CPR designed structure . of course at time of construction  Grand Trunk

I'm not sure what you found in that article that suggests that Union Station was a "CPR
designed structure." Union Station was built between 1915 and 1920 by the Toronto
Terminals Railway, jointly owned by the CPR and the GTR. The headhouse was designed by
a number of architects representing the interests of both railways, including Ross &
Macdonald representing the GTR and Hugh Jones representing the CPR. The Grand Trunk
name can still be seen over the Front Street entrance although no GTR trains ever used the
station.


was in Trouble  and the CNR as we know it was in the formulation stages .
now North Toronto required a separate coach yard and roundhouse and with

The roundhouse for North Toronto Station was at West Toronto. There was a small coach
yard east of the NTS.

only 4 tracks to work with limited capacity . When Union station opened you
walked up to six tracks like today and the other tracks you walked down to
they were at the old union station level . The city of Toronto insisted on

When Union Station opened in August 1927, there were no tracks in the train shed, which
hadn't been built yet. All the tracks were on the old grade. The first six tracks in the shed
on the new elevated grade were opened in January 1930. The remaining four tracks
opened in December 1930.

Derek Boles

the TTR raising the tracls so underpasses could be built for traffic to the
Waterfront ,  I feel if CNoR had survived  built the electified line
bussinessmen would have flocked to the area .High density building wouold
have happened St Clair  to Bloor  maybe Eaton,s would have built Eaton,s
Sumerhill instead of College st it would be closer to Deer Park . Forest
Hill Village and Rosedale  these are where the people with the disposable
income have lived for generations. regards David Hill                   o



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