Re: [cpsig] Economics of replacing steam

  • From: "KVRailway" <kvrailway@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:52:32 -0800

Very true, in the mid-1950’s there were a number of important technological advancements for the steam engine that made it a better choice than diesel. High tensile steel, better insulation, roller bearings synthetic lubrication and huge advancements in front end technology (steam nozzle and petticoat). It has been suggested that if the Canadian railways waited about 5 years they might not have moved to diesel. There were all sorts of wonderful improvements to the engine happening all over the world.

Jeff Pinchbeck

It has been suggested by railfans and steam buffs, yes ... but not by many serious, unbiased railroaders I've ever known who had extensive experience with both steam and diesel. I won't rehash the arguments yet again. Nothing the pro-steam crowd has presented to date has ever given those of us (or perhaps most correctly, most of us) who spent time in the industry and took any sort of interest in the question any reason to think that dieselization was a mistake so far as at least North America is concerned. Dieselization would have occurred simply because the ongoing improvements to electronics allowed diesels to go places and do things which a traditionally designed steam engine simply could not be set up to do. Remember that when we talk about steam engines, for the purpose of this discussion we are talking about locomotives which looked and functioned pretty much as the traditional idea of a steam locomotive. If we had steam powered locomotives today, they wouldn't look anything like the traditional steamers.

Joe Smuin



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