Exactly where I went with the question.
Perhaps the trauma is a thread from the whole web of humanity and beyond –
hence the challenge of more accurately pin pointing the source in a
constellation setting.
The pain of many.
Thank you for the thread
Rowena
From: <constellationtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of "Isaac Pizer
("isaacpizer")" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Monday, 27 February 2023 at 12:50
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Subject: [constellationtalk] Re: Exclusion
Thank you both - this is important, and led me to think about Thomas Hubl's
book concerning collective trauma.
Warm regards,
Isaac
Isaac Pizer M.A.
Psychotherapy, Counselling & Clinical Supervision
UKCP Registered Psychotherapist
07936-584046
www.derbypsychotherapyandcounselling.co.uk
"That there is a true and timeless self, an Essential Self, a Self that is not
constructed in early life,
is widely known in most religions and spiritual teachings in both East and
West.
All throughout the ages the quest for the real and Essential Self has been
recorded in teachings, stories, poetry and art…
What is most intriguing is that this fact is almost entirely overlooked by the
very psychologists who make it their scientific work to study the self.."
A.H. Almaas.
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 10:36, Julie Ulbricht <julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Polly
I am interested in your question.
This is a bit far out; but it is an idea that came up very recently and caught
my attention, so may be relevant:
Let us say that part of what we are struggling with as human beings is
something that does not belong to us and in fact does not belong on this
planet. You could say that we have been infiltrated.
This idea resonates for me, as when we do Constellations, or when we look at
young children, we see our essential nature - our purity, which is loving and
which we are trying to get back to by finding a way of releasing/transmuting
what does not belong to us: that which is not innate.
Often we refer to that other aspect of ourselves as trauma (or it's
byproducts); but it seems to me that although trauma is an aspect of that, it
is more than just trauma, but a whole set of beliefs and erroneous ways of
viewing the world, including the belief that we are seperate from others.
Whether such views are all derived in the aftermath of trauma, or whether they
in fact have a 'life' and structure of their own, which would make them more
likely to be the cause of trauma, is an interesting question.
If part of us does not belong on this planet and is not innate, we would
naturally have a sense of not belonging; and yet underneath, when we get beyond
the limited view of that part, we would feel our deep and innate connection to
others, to nature and to life itself.
I'm not used to writing about this subject. It is challenging to express in
words!
Julie
“Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to
see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that
frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our
love.” Rainer Maria Rilke
Simple Ayurveda
Julie Ulbricht BSc Ayurveda, PG Dip Ayurvedic Medicine
07529 549589
julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
simpleayurveda.co.uk
From: constellationtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<constellationtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Polly Pring
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Sent: 27 February 2023 10:05:29
To: constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [constellationtalk] Exclusion
In my work recently I have had several clients expressing feelings of exclusion.
I am interesting in opening a conversation here about your experiences with
working with exclusion.
Exploring potential blind spots, unconscious bias and cultural signifiers
especially when a family constellation does not reveal the source of the
exclusion.
Looking forward,
Polly
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